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Wanted: new Zetec 2.0 engine
SteveRST - 5/1/16 at 01:57 PM

Looking for a new Zetec 2.0 engine. Silver or Blacktop.

Have tried all the usual suppliers and cheapest I can find is £900 delivered. Anyone able to better that?

Steve

coozer - 5/1/16 at 02:06 PM

When you say new do you know that the last ones where made around 2004/5?

Crate engines available now have been sitting on shelf's for over 10 years. Silvertops stopped way back in the early 90's so finding one of them would be a task!

What's your goal? All brand new parts for a current reg??

SteveRST - 5/1/16 at 02:19 PM

Yeah, maybe "new" is the wrong phrase - "unused" then.

Nah, just replacing my silver-top which rattles a bit at the top end and smokes a bit at idle. Just fancy starting from a fresh engine rather than taking a risk with an unknown second hand unit. The unused engines seem reasonably cheap, and will only ever get more expensive the longer I leave it.

Could also be open to any low-mileage 'good' used engine though.

[Edited on 5/1/16 by SteveRST]

loggyboy - 5/1/16 at 02:20 PM

Im pretty sure ford outsourced their production (and still do) to a subsidiary (powertrain maybe?). You can still buy genuine crate engines online.
If production had halted 11 years ago these would have dried up a long time ago.

[Edited on 5-1-16 by loggyboy]

big_wasa - 5/1/16 at 06:55 PM

Have a look at the crate engines. They have an 04 build number on the front of the cam belt cover.

Aren't they required by law to hold spares for 10 years, hence the flood of new old stock the year before last ?

sssline - 5/1/16 at 07:45 PM

If your looking at buying other parts i got a deal via Raceline, good discount on the engine quoted price, although that was 3 years ago...

http://www.raceline.co.uk/products/part_section.asp?SectionID=96&CategoryID=4

obfripper - 5/1/16 at 10:37 PM

Retro ford are a bit cheaper at £850, i got a replacement new block from cgb motorsport, at that time they were £500+delivery for a complete engine but i don't think they sell them anymore, but it might be worth a ring.
I would fit a new cambelt to these engines, the original belt may not have been used but will have deteriorated and weakened.
The factory oil that is in these engines is also very odd stuff being a vivid green and fluorescing orange like uv dye, i assumed it was used for dyno testing the engine during production and leak testing, and not intended for further use.

My replacement block is marked 10/04 in the castings, ford had a large surplus of these engines at the end of focus production.
Ford used to sell off this kind of end of line stock via their trade club, there used to be quarterly lists of end of line stock sent round at prices you wouldn't believe.

Dave

loggyboy - 5/1/16 at 10:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
Have a look at the crate engines. They have an 04 build number on the front of the cam belt cover.

Aren't they required by law to hold spares for 10 years, hence the flood of new old stock the year before last ?


So no blacktop zetec will have anything later than 04?

stripe70 - 8/1/16 at 10:02 AM

Do you need a CAT going from silvertop to blacktop.
I`m looking to do the same

SJ - 8/1/16 at 11:24 AM

quote:

Do you need a CAT going from silvertop to blacktop.
I`m looking to do the same


you would need a cat for IVA all but the oldest silvertops as well.

mcerd1 - 8/1/16 at 02:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by stripe70
Do you need a CAT going from silvertop to blacktop.
I`m looking to do the same


Is your car already registered without a cat?

It the answer is yes then the newer engine makes no difference to your future emissions tests - it only needs to meet the same standard as it did on the day of its IVA test.


If its not registered yet then it would mean you need a cat for the IVA. (and for every MOT from then on too...)

[Edited on 8/1/2016 by mcerd1]

mcerd1 - 8/1/16 at 02:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by SteveRST
Yeah, maybe "new" is the wrong phrase - "unused" then.

Could also be open to any low-mileage 'good' used engine though.]


Keep in mind the age of these 'new' engines means that they should really have a new cam belt fitted before you run them - a few folk have found this out the hard way

Also don't completely discount the 1.8's - with the 2.0 cams they are even meant to make about the same power as the 2.0 with a little less torque of course.
But they can be a bit cheaper and have a lighter flywheel as standard. (of course you can put a 1.8 flywheel on a 2.0 to try and get the best of both worlds)

SJ - 8/1/16 at 02:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by SteveRST
Yeah, maybe "new" is the wrong phrase - "unused" then.

Could also be open to any low-mileage 'good' used engine though.]


Keep in mind the age of these 'new' engines means that they should really have a new cam belt fitted before you run them - a few folk have found this out the hard way

Also don't completely discount the 1.8's - with the 2.0 cams they are even meant to make about the same power as the 2.0 with a little less torque of course.
But they can be a bit cheaper and have a lighter flywheel as standard. (of course you can put a 1.8 flywheel on a 2.0 to try and get the best of both worlds)

That's a good point. I had a 1.8 BT before my 2.0 and despite being fairly knackered it was a sweeter revving engine, with little difference in power and that was on 1.8 cams.

J90rdn - 8/1/16 at 08:02 PM

I talked to GBS and managed to get a crate 2.0 blacktop for £825 collected. Had to buy some other bits though. Raceline were willing to do one for £810 but they were too far for me to collect.

J90rdn - 8/1/16 at 08:02 PM

P.S. this was only a few weeks ago.

Benny21 - 10/1/16 at 09:04 AM

I can do new 2.0 zetecs for £800 each plus delivery or collection from Northampton. Thanks

stripe70 - 16/1/16 at 03:10 PM

Thanks all but I've now taken delivery of a new 2.0 blacktop from retro Ford
£946 all in delivered