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Thruxton GT vs. MK HSR
JonTarry - 19/6/15 at 12:38 PM

Hi all,

Can anyone tell me exactly how the Thruxton GT and MK HSR Healey-esque bodies differ from each other? It's obvious they share DNA, but I understand they are not exactly the same.

Here the Thruxton:


...and the HSR:


There are some styling differences (holes in the bonnet and front side/indicator lighting), but other than that? I've read that the Thruxton is better finished, but I can't quantify what that actually means...

Thanks in advance for any help!

Cheers,

Jon.


JonTarry - 19/6/15 at 12:52 PM

Scratch that, I just answered my own question by ringing MK and finding out they don't supply it any more!

For any mods, this topic can be deleted. I can't find any obvious way of doing so myself.


femster87 - 19/6/15 at 01:12 PM

The body manufacturer is in Derbyshire somewhere. Had a bodywork for sale recently on ebay

[Edited on 19/6/15 by femster87]


The Knobs - 19/6/15 at 01:45 PM

I really want one of these ( Thruxton GT ), anyone got a cheap one sat doing nothing? Is there any online info on the kits etc anywhere as cant find much?


Slimy38 - 19/6/15 at 01:46 PM

He was at Stoneleigh this year on the kitpartsdirect stand, I was so annoyed because he had a show special discount and I've got nowhere to store it yet!

I couldn't really see much difference in finish between the two, they're both 'rough' as they come out the mould and aren't as polished as some other suppliers. But that's why they're cheap.

I'm sure I have some photos of a 'raw' shell as it was at the show, I'll try and post them later if I can.


femster87 - 19/6/15 at 01:50 PM

Look at the lights and you will notice a difference. Front and back


kitcardirect - 19/6/15 at 01:59 PM

if you contact us we can look to help to with a purchase of the old hsr body,

u2u or email sales@kitcardirect.co.uk

regards

sean
kcd


JonTarry - 19/6/15 at 02:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by The Knobs
I really want one of these ( Thruxton GT ), anyone got a cheap one sat doing nothing? Is there any online info on the kits etc anywhere as cant find much?


Thruxton have some photos on their Facebook page, otherwise the info is a bit limited.


JonTarry - 19/6/15 at 02:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
I'm sure I have some photos of a 'raw' shell as it was at the show, I'll try and post them later if I can.


That would be great, if possible...


The Knobs - 19/6/15 at 02:54 PM

the lightweight matt black one looks awesome, wonder how light though?


rdodger - 19/6/15 at 03:06 PM

Nice picture of the Thruxton!

There isn't much info on the web as Jim Walker who manufactures them does it as a sideline to his garage business in Cornwall and doesn't really do computers. He will however chat to you for hours if you call him.

I set up the facebook page to share the pictures of my build.

As for the differences in the ex MK body V's the Thruxton. The Thruxton is basically a development of the MK HSR body which was in fact owned by another friend of mine. Jim bought a body, didn't think much of it and chopped it about until he was then used it as a buck to make new moulds.

The Thruxton fits on top of the chassis rails of a MK, MAC#1, Westfield, even a Haynes. The lights are different and the general fit and finish are far better. Mine is in gel coat and a good finish. With the body Jim will supply outriggers to fit to a 7 chassis or he can supply an entire kit.

If you need any more details let me know.

Cheap ones for sale? Not really as there are only 2 Thruxtons on the road. Mine, & the black demo car. There is a yellow one currently in bits (old demo car) and a customer V8 one in build which should be ready for next years Stoneleigh. The is also a blue body fitted on a particularly nice Saab powered Haynes Roadster.

I might be persuaded to sell mine but not cheaply


Slimy38 - 19/6/15 at 03:23 PM

quote:
Originally posted by kitcardirect
if you contact us we can look to help to with a purchase of the old hsr body,

u2u or email sales@kitcardirect.co.uk

regards

sean
kcd


Ah, it was kitcardirect not kitpartsdirect, my bad! Good to know you have contact with him though.


The Knobs - 19/6/15 at 05:34 PM

Will look into this as if the body will fit a range of chassis, this could make a decent light track car with the retro look.


Slimy38 - 19/6/15 at 05:49 PM

Some pics;







And the price that I missed out on


The Knobs - 19/6/15 at 06:36 PM

Cheap as chips, where can i get one at that price? pale blue is the colour i am thinking like the fiat 500s with black trim and wheels. may be getting a bit excited lol


Slimy38 - 19/6/15 at 08:16 PM

I'm just hoping/praying he does the same price at Stoneleigh 2016... to be fair, I'm sure I was looking at about £1300 originally, so £1100 is a good price itself.


The Knobs - 19/6/15 at 08:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
I'm just hoping/praying he does the same price at Stoneleigh 2016... to be fair, I'm sure I was looking at about £1300 originally, so £1100 is a good price itself.


Looks like it says £899 as show offer


Slimy38 - 19/6/15 at 09:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by The Knobs
quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
I'm just hoping/praying he does the same price at Stoneleigh 2016... to be fair, I'm sure I was looking at about £1300 originally, so £1100 is a good price itself.


Looks like it says £899 as show offer


Yes, but even if it doesn't come back to £899, the £1100 current price is still quite decent.


JonTarry - 20/6/15 at 08:58 AM

@Slimy38: thanks for the photos! Nice to see interior photos at last.

quote:
Originally posted by rdodger
The Thruxton fits on top of the chassis rails of a MK, MAC#1, Westfield, even a Haynes. The lights are different and the general fit and finish are far better. Mine is in gel coat and a good finish. With the body Jim will supply outriggers to fit to a 7 chassis or he can supply an entire kit.


Are you able to provide details on how the fit and finish is better? From what I can tell you'd certainly be getting good support as I've since spoken to Jim. He's indeed a knowledgeable guy and is keen to share details. I have the feeling he'd be good support for a build. There's quite a price difference and it's not very evident what I would be getting for the extra investment when only looking at the body conversion..the chassis is no doubt a different matter.

It would seem the MK version still lives, evidently supplied by Kit Parts Direct. I'm assuming this is what has now been rebadged as the "Jetson 7"?


rdodger - 20/6/15 at 01:17 PM

The body is moulded to fit on top of the chassis rails behind the seat and at the side. So the main tub is kind of self jigging. It also means the cockpit sides are double skinned and finished.




The whole thing fits together better in terms of the bonnet section and the main tub.

The lower edge has a return a couple of inches up to sit on the outrigger

It has inner arches moulded in.

The overall gel finish is spot on and doesn't need painting. The bodies are mounlded by a boat builder down in Cornwall so spot on


Slimy38 - 20/6/15 at 01:44 PM

How much is the Thruxton body at the moment?


JonTarry - 20/6/15 at 03:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by rdodger
The body is moulded to fit on top of the chassis rails behind the seat and at the side. So the main tub is kind of self jigging. It also means the cockpit sides are double skinned and finished.

The whole thing fits together better in terms of the bonnet section and the main tub.

The lower edge has a return a couple of inches up to sit on the outrigger

It has inner arches moulded in.

The overall gel finish is spot on and doesn't need painting. The bodies are mounlded by a boat builder down in Cornwall so spot on


That gives a better idea, thanks!


JonTarry - 20/6/15 at 03:22 PM

I was quoted £1,650 + VAT

I understand the HSR is around £400 cheaper, I'm assuming that's also without VAT and without the outriggers supplied with the Thruxton. By the sounds of it, the price difference seems justified.


dilley - 1/7/15 at 09:37 PM

I wonder if the body will fit with a full roll cage?


Toltec - 1/7/15 at 11:23 PM

It can certainly be made to fit with a braced roll bar, I don't think it would be too difficult to get a full cage to fit, though it would have to bolt in.

When I helped Ash with odd bits there was a certain amount of tweaking needed to make it fit his Haynes chassis. It took quite some time to get the body to sit the way he wanted it, you need to be patient and accept you cannot just drop it on and bolt it up. The rear edge of the bonnet needed extending so the front wheel sat nicely in the arches.

It did look very nice on the road and the capacious boot helped with touring practicality.


Slimy38 - 2/7/15 at 07:13 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Toltec
When I helped Ash with odd bits there was a certain amount of tweaking needed to make it fit his Haynes chassis. It took quite some time to get the body to sit the way he wanted it, you need to be patient and accept you cannot just drop it on and bolt it up. The rear edge of the bonnet needed extending so the front wheel sat nicely in the arches.


This 100%. The price of the body and the 'flexibility' of host chassis means that I'm fully expecting it to be a nightmare to fit. I almost wonder whether the outriggers of the Thruxton kit will make it more difficult to custom fit, particularly as I've already had to modify some of my chassis for the MX5 donor. Going for the HSR version means that I can make my own outriggers to fit exactly.


swanny - 2/7/15 at 07:57 AM

there has got to be a market for someone to offer a drive in-drive out conversion....


Slimy38 - 2/7/15 at 08:05 AM

quote:
Originally posted by swanny
there has got to be a market for someone to offer a drive in-drive out conversion....


If you look at the Jetson 7 pictures I posted, they have three options listed (middle page). The bottom one was a full drive in/out conversion. I'll try and look at a better view of the image to get the price, but from memory it was 'from £x,000' so they're obviously banking on a lot of customization required.


swanny - 2/7/15 at 08:17 AM

you're right. it looks like three grand.....


Toltec - 2/7/15 at 09:41 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
quote:


This 100%. The price of the body and the 'flexibility' of host chassis means that I'm fully expecting it to be a nightmare to fit. I almost wonder whether the outriggers of the Thruxton kit will make it more difficult to custom fit, particularly as I've already had to modify some of my chassis for the MX5 donor. Going for the HSR version means that I can make my own outriggers to fit exactly.


The outriggers are just a length of box section with two pieces teed off to go to the chassis. You trim them to fit the width of the body/chassis and weld them on. The Thruxton body has built in shelves that sit on to the outriggers and you add packing to get the height right. Ash had to add some tube to the passenger compartment rails to get the right height for the body. You also need to remove the parts of the chassis that hold the rear bodywork and make up a frame to become a boot floor and body support.

Ash routed the exhaust from the original side can up through the wheel arch and out the back.

In case it isn't clear the reason I know all this is that it takes two people to move the tub on and off...


Slimy38 - 2/7/15 at 09:46 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Toltec
quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38

This 100%. The price of the body and the 'flexibility' of host chassis means that I'm fully expecting it to be a nightmare to fit. I almost wonder whether the outriggers of the Thruxton kit will make it more difficult to custom fit, particularly as I've already had to modify some of my chassis for the MX5 donor. Going for the HSR version means that I can make my own outriggers to fit exactly.


The outriggers are just a length of box section with two pieces teed off to go to the chassis. You trim them to fit the width of the body/chassis and weld them on. The Thruxton body has built in shelves that sit on to the outriggers and you add packing to get the height right. Ash had to add some tube to the passenger compartment rails to get the right height for the body. You also need to remove the parts of the chassis that hold the rear bodywork and make up a frame to become a boot floor and body support.

Ash routed the exhaust from the original side can up through the wheel arch and out the back.

In case it isn't clear the reason I know all this is that it takes two people to move the tub on and off...


That's actually really useful, thanks for the info. It's kind of what I was expecting to do, particularly around the back end. I've not actually built up the rear bodywork frame on that basis, I'm just leaving it as the bottom diff cage and the bars from the top suspension struts.

And yes, the bodywork seemed reasonably light, but the sheer size suggests a two person job!

[Edited on 2/7/15 by Slimy38]


ashg - 2/7/15 at 01:05 PM

here are a couple of pictures of mine




you can see the outriggers here




fitting thruxton body on a haynes roadster




ended up adding an inch onto the bonnet but wasnt a big deal to do.




sadly i sold the car to a chap in Germany and moved to the USA. little bit sad about that :-( currently have no idea where she is or if shees been smashed into a ditch/wall :-(


ashg - 2/7/15 at 01:07 PM

i documented the whole conversion for CKC but it never got published


Slimy38 - 2/7/15 at 01:58 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ashg
i documented the whole conversion for CKC but it never got published


Those pics look really good, nice colour as well. I'd love to see the whole conversion process as well, would you be able to post it for us to take a look?


JonTarry - 2/7/15 at 02:37 PM

quote:
I'd love to see the whole conversion process as well, would you be able to post it for us to take a look?


Absolutely, that'd be great!


slingshot2000 - 2/7/15 at 03:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JonTarry
quote:
I'd love to see the whole conversion process as well, would you be able to post it for us to take a look?


Absolutely, that'd be great!


^^^^^+1


AndyW - 3/7/15 at 09:39 PM

Think I may have found my next project. I like that a lot!


PAUL FISHER - 4/7/15 at 09:42 PM

Here you go

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Austin-Healey-3000-Kit-Car-Body-Kit-Fits-Lotus-7-Locost-MK-Dutton-Robin-Hood-/291507284186?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=it em43df3028da


Slimy38 - 4/7/15 at 11:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by PAUL FISHER
Here you go

Austin Healey 3000 Kit Car Body Kit Fits Lotus 7, Locost, MK, Dutton, Robin Hood


That is quite eye-opening in lots of ways!! Firstly I didn't even twig there was two variations, despite seeing both the light blue and the white ones next to each other I didn't realise one was a wide arched version!!

And then there's the price...


femster87 - 9/7/15 at 09:27 PM

Here you go, registered car. Needs a new engine


Thruxton GT original prototype


HOL - 10/7/15 at 07:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ashg
i documented the whole conversion for CKC but it never got published


Hi Ash,

Did you move with work?

Andy


femster87 - 10/7/15 at 10:00 PM

Thruxton GT road track and sprint car


stamfordspeed - 18/6/16 at 09:59 PM

I am trying to get one of the narrow Healey 3000 bodies......saw an ad on ebay last year....have emailed the company ( kitcarparts ), but no reply yet........any news on who owns the moulds.


Slimy38 - 18/6/16 at 10:37 PM

This is who you need;

http://locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=204213

I asked him about the narrow bodies and he's still making them, that was only a fortnight ago.

[Edited on 18/6/16 by Slimy38]


stamfordspeed - 19/6/16 at 08:51 AM

Thanks, I will give them a try

[Edited on 19/6/16 by stamfordspeed]