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mike2704 - 11/11/16 at 11:11 AM

Hi just seen this on Facebook looks interesting what do you think.
https://www.facebook.com/tomtopfans/videos/1263126313738893/
not sure how to link this.
Cheers Mike

loggyboy - 11/11/16 at 11:41 AM

Needs an OBD2 socket, so not much used for most kits.
I have a similar setup on my clio which data logs and displays stats on an old android phone I have built in to dash.

[Edited on 11-11-16 by loggyboy]

Huttojb - 11/11/16 at 12:39 PM

Most OEM manufactures have standardised a few of the CAN signals so therefore third party Diagnostics Kits and things like this are possible. It will only work post 2001 where CANbus was mandatory on all mass produce vehicles as stated by the GOV.

it's a nice little gadget, not a fan myself, but a nice conversation piece. Good find

[Edited on 11/11/16 by Huttojb]

loggyboy - 11/11/16 at 01:53 PM

My dad has one on his S reg Elise, which I assume is canbus but pre 2001.

Huttojb - 11/11/16 at 02:10 PM

I think certain manufactures did go CAN prior to 2001 but it became regulation for all post 2001.

I had a Rover 25 which was 2002MY and wasn't CAN, it was still using KLINE. I think what's come to light with VW over the last year shows OEMs don't really give a 'poo'.

[Edited on 11/11/16 by Huttojb]

ken555 - 11/11/16 at 08:00 PM

Look for Speedview app on the Google store, stick your phone on the dash facing up.

mcerd1 - 11/11/16 at 10:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Huttojb
Most OEM manufactures have standardised a few of the CAN signals so therefore third party Diagnostics Kits and things like this are possible. It will only work post 2001 where CANbus was mandatory on all mass produce vehicles as stated by the GOV.

I think your getting CAN Buses mixed up with EOBD / OBDII

CAN bus has been around since the 1980's on some cars and pedates these OBD standards by a good few years

EOBD (European version that we get) is an EU requirement in petrol's from 2000/2001 and diesels from 2003/2004, and basically the same as the American OBDII that they made mandatory in 1996

Ford and others actually used PWM (pulse width modulation) and other non-CAN bus communication protocols for OBDII / EOBD compatibility


the EOBD and OBDII specs only require a minimal amount of diagnostic info is available in one of the several available standard formats (ie what the box in the link is reading) if the manufacturer wants to use the same plug for their own much more complete diagnostics that's up to them.....

[Edited on 11/11/2016 by mcerd1]

Huttojb - 12/11/16 at 11:42 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
I think your getting CAN Buses mixed up with EOBD / OBDII


I think you maybe correct, thinking about it!!!