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myke pocock - 8/2/23 at 05:15 PM

Hoping someone on here has any experience of FOI requests as I know of the vast experience around on the site. . If a FOI request has been made of a public body, is that body duty bound to publish details of that request? If so, where would any FOI requests be found?


gremlin1234 - 8/2/23 at 06:11 PM

have a search for 'whatdotheyknow'
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/


HowardB - 8/2/23 at 07:43 PM

According to the missus... if they hold the info they have respond to the person/body that raised the FOI. They are not duty bound to publish either the FOI requests or the responses. That in itself could be an FOI request... some public bodies may use a public facing (like the one suggested above by Gremlin) tool to manage FOIs then the data is public.

[Edited on 9/2/23 by HowardB]


myke pocock - 8/2/23 at 08:37 PM

Thanks HowardB. That appears that they can then be selective over what they publish or not. Wonder who makes that decision? What's the point in the system then unless the reply is secret but it could be redacted in some form. Cheers.


gremlin1234 - 8/2/23 at 10:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by myke pocockWhat's the point in the system then unless the reply is secret but it could be redacted in some form. Cheers.

the system allows for journalists and others to ask the specific questions.
if all requests were published directly, there would be so much 'noise' in the system,
and also might revel journalists enquiries before they are complete.
note a secret or readdicted answer has a lot of 'meta data' to show which information is unavailable.


BenB - 8/2/23 at 10:17 PM

There are reasons why the information can be withheld eg if commercially sensitive or already provided (even at a cost).


perksy - 9/2/23 at 07:43 AM

To be fair its not the 'open book' that many folks hoped for when it came into fruition, there is an appeals process though if the required information is not readily forthcoming


padrc66 - 9/2/23 at 08:18 AM

from the Act:

"Where a person makes a ‘request for information’ to a public authority, the authority’s general duty is to:

inform the applicant, in writing, whether it holds the information requested (referred to as the ‘duty to confirm or deny’); and
if it holds the information, communicate this to the applicant."

"Some exemptions are ‘absolute’ while others involve the application of a ‘public interest’ test to determine whether the public interest in maintaining the exemption outweighs the public interest in disclosing the information"

it all depends who the authority is, many do publish requests, eg

HSE (there's an interesting one on there about the Top Gear jet car crash)
https://www.hse.gov.uk/foi/releases/index.htm

ONS
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/publishedrequests

etc


myke pocock - 9/2/23 at 02:51 PM

To be honest this question refers to alleged requests to Forestry England regarding information on a motorsport competition we hold within forests. Hardly appears to be a reason not to list the requests on their site.


jps - 10/2/23 at 11:54 AM

I think the point is the legislation is there to allow people to ask public bodies and get info back.

What you’re describing ( for them to keep a public facing register of all such requests/their responses) goes beyond that.


Prof_Cook - 11/2/23 at 08:56 PM

While I believe a publicly published list of FOI requests (and their replies) is not mandated on Public Bodies, I suggest that an individual could ask a Public Body for a copy of the FOI requests made to them (and the replies) for the last calendar year or another period, but personal information (ie requesters details) would (should) not be released. Such a request would then reveal the content of all requests made to that public body. Some public bodies do publish indexes to their FOIs on the web, for example https://www.penninecare.nhs.uk/foirequests/navigate/1722/4085 and then provide copies of the questions (and their answers) but such indexes are hard to find.