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KIt Car Crisis - Final Episode
Jonr - 5/7/05 at 08:13 PM

tonight at 10.

"Will his dreams fall apart on the racetrack"

Welllllllll, not actually on the racetrack.


chrism - 5/7/05 at 08:23 PM

I heard ages ago that on the first test the suspension mounts broke, so it should be interesting to watch tonight.


big_wasa - 5/7/05 at 09:13 PM

yep one of the front shock mounts just tore of with the weight of just one bloke bouncing the front end


subk2002 - 5/7/05 at 09:30 PM

The chassis at the diff mounts just twisted with the power

[Edited on 5/7/05 by subk2002]


andy d (rizla) - 5/7/05 at 09:32 PM

i think it twisted due to bad desihn not power,he only used a max of 8500 rpm


Jonr - 5/7/05 at 10:46 PM

to my feeble brain it seemed obvious that bit was going to bend, break, twist.

Chain drive, so when accelarating all the force is trying to pull the diff up and over towards the engine and it's acting unequally on the chain side. Looked like 3/4" shs to me, so pretty much all the acceleration/inertia forces are going into that small section and not evenly either. I genuinely feel sorry for the poor guy, he was almost in tears. Still think he's a bit of a twatt but all power to him. it's the chassis fault, poor diff mounts, dodgy welding and the best side impact protection I have ever seen!!! (rememeber the 1st episode)


rayward - 5/7/05 at 10:48 PM

here mate, just hold this chain while i whack it with a lump hammer........ouch!


you gotta laugh.


Spottty - 5/7/05 at 11:56 PM

Man I wish we got that show. I love seeing people do stuff like that when they really dont have a clue.

Some saw its mean to laugh but hey, we were all there at one point in are car hobby!


bimbleuk - 6/7/05 at 05:40 AM

In this case it was OK to laugh

Subconsciously I think he knew it would never make it to track so he fitted those huge bling bling wheels

Did anyone catch the weight of the car on the scales. I thought i saw 648 on the display but that can't be right surely?

[Edited on 6/7/05 by bimbleuk]


Kissy - 6/7/05 at 06:06 AM

The guy's a numpty!
I assume he got a lot of the kit on the back of it being a programme - if he didn't he's even more of a numpty. From what we could see of the chassis in the area of the transaxle not only was the tubing possibly insubstantial, it was unbraced, no triangulation or gussets, and it was hard to spot any weld. I like the engine guy saying it was chain stretch - must've made the chain out of Playdoh! Yes we have all been there, but at least we had the common sense to shop around and ask people, and not commit our money so readily. If I feel vaguely sorry for him it's that he's been sold a pup of a car and picked up a load of dud hangers-on.


David Jenkins - 6/7/05 at 07:56 AM

What a crappy finish to a crappy series!

The car's near-enough finished, he's had a serious problems that probably could be fixed by a competent chassis engineer, and...

...nothing.

Not even a concluding commentary to say what happened in the end.

We are often rude about Mark Evans' series of 'A <something> is born', but at least those programmes had a beginning, middle and end, and he did appear to do most of the work himself (including making and fixing his own mistakes). He didn't come over as a whining pillock either, even if he did grate on the nerves occasionally.

Hmm.

David


donut - 6/7/05 at 08:17 AM

I must admit i laughed my a** off when he hit his friend's hand with the hammer

I think the series is a 'not how to do things' type of programme, after all it is called kit car crisis!

As for Mark Evans, i love his way of presenting and he is as mad in real life as he is on his programmes.....such a nice bloke


andyharding - 6/7/05 at 08:39 AM

I'm told he got paid £60K to make the KKC series. If anyone meets him ask if it was worth £60K to let the whole country see what a muppet you are!


DaveFJ - 6/7/05 at 09:17 AM

I was quite surprised by the reaction of the race team guys that tested the car. They seemed to think it waas well put together and actually seemed to be quite impressed with the chassis at the back end. Surely these guys should have spotted the problems straight away without the car ever going onto the track ?

Agree it was a crap way to end the series. I see from the RGB site that he has yet to race..... but apparently his Fisher Fury is for sale. maybe thats to pay for the work on his chassis.

There is an interesting post on the RGB forum by Dominator who claim they have not been contacted about the problems and they put their side of the argument across

Here


woodster - 6/7/05 at 11:57 AM

60K................. any work going


Peteff - 6/7/05 at 01:19 PM

For that much they could dress me up as Kermit and show my arse in Woolworths' window


chrisg - 6/7/05 at 01:31 PM

What, again pete?


DaveFJ - 6/7/05 at 01:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
For that much they could dress me up as Kermit and show my arse in Woolworths' window


Now that image is gonna be hard to shake...


rayward - 6/7/05 at 07:12 PM

Just found the website for the bloke who build the domintot TS400

bendybadlywelded.co.uk

Just around the corner from me.


Ray


woodster - 7/7/05 at 09:22 AM

As it says on the website.......Dominators are high performance road going or racing sports cars built to the most exacting and best of modern standards.


MikeRJ - 7/7/05 at 09:59 PM

There's a complete MK GT1 chassis and body on Ebay at the moment, could be just what the man needs to replace his plasticine one.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29750&item=4560805692&rd=1


Jon Ison - 8/7/05 at 06:19 AM

some of the bits look familiar, (exhaust, front ally panel) but the chassis as either been repaired or its not as stated.........the welded in roll hoop and brace seem too have gone for a walk too, along with several mods too the chassis.

[Edited on 8/7/05 by Jon Ison] Rescued attachment cadwell.jpg
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woodster - 8/7/05 at 09:05 AM

can't be the same car, the one on ebay has four wheels


Jon Ison - 8/7/05 at 02:16 PM

the front end of the chassis is totaly different too, also the engine was mounted 6" further forward than normal, it dont look like same chassis at all but the exhaust does look like the one.


David Jenkins - 8/7/05 at 02:25 PM

Interesting - the item has been pulled...

DJ


Jasper - 8/7/05 at 06:40 PM

I find it hard to believe he got £60k for that, it was a very minor programme and they usually don't have anything like those budgets, they know people will do it for (next to) nothing for the help and sponsorship.

And not all the hangers on are muppets, Alistair - the electrics/Digidash guy is a really nice and knowledgable and helped me with my installation.

What interesting about that thread on RGB is it hasn't gone any further, anybody know why?


David Jenkins - 8/7/05 at 08:46 PM

I wonder if the progamme producers have noted the reaction in various forums...

DJ