Duratec, S2000 or Pinto
which are the popular bike and car engines ?
which require the least mods
mazda...toyota yam honda yadayadayada
bit of a broad question - what are you building? what do you want to use it for? etc etc more info needed please
track mostly...but poss road registered
As Mook said your questions are far too broad. To get useful info you need to give it, and so far you are not doing that.
but what is the most tried and tested with minimum mods.
I cant believe you need TBs bike carbs etc to get a quick car
I want it simple
You are still doing it. Remember, give out the info first, in terms of making it clear what you want, then will help.
What you are doing is similar to someone asking the best way into town, without saying which town or where they are starting from.
“What is the most popular engine which is tried and tested” is not a difficult question; it’s a matter of fact to someone who knows the subject.
The criterion of "mostly track but road registered" is possibly the most common kit car use.
And as for the comments made by “interestedparty” I’ve never heard so much condescending claptrap. Please if you see a post from me again please don’t
feel the need to contribute
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Originally posted by alawrence
which are the popular bike and car engines ?
I rate the Vauxhall 2.0 XE as they are quite cheap and well tested
Car engines...
Ford Pinto/Zetec/Duratec, Rover K series/V8, Vx RedTop. Toyata 4ag, Honda S2000....
Bike engine...
Honda Fireblades/Blackbird, Kwak zx9/10/11/12/14. Suzuki 'busa, Yamaha R1's....
Rule out the Pinto as it's a bit old hat, S3000 great engine bit complicated to fit, Blackbird and Busa need drysump if you want them to last.
Rover V8 probably not the best suited to track cars. That still leaves a long list without more info.
BEC is probably the best option for mostly track use but then we;re starting to open another can of worms.
adrian
What is it for? What Car, Etc... Its a vague question however many variables you give it but with non its not possible, there are so many engines used in the world, non of them would be there if they weren't best for a car at a certain time.
Please search this topic, it has been covered to death. If you want an answer though
Duratec, S2000 or Pinto
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Originally posted by alawrence
“What is the most popular engine which is tried and tested”
quote:
Originally posted by alawrence
Please if you see a post from me again please don’t feel the need to contribute
Looking back at your previous thread, it seems you want to race in the locost series. I think there are restrictions on what engines you can use. May ba worth finding out first.
What race series are you planning on entering? Some only allow certain engines.
Regards
Hugh
Lambo V10, fantastic engine, would need no mods to make a quick car......
The best mainstream 4 cylinder engine around is prob the Honda K20. Not sure what RWD gearbox options there are though.
i like the idea of a subaru flat four in a rear/mid engine set up using the standard gearbox. or a bike engine in a small light car, or a big v8 in a
big heavy car....
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Originally posted by alawrence
but what is the most tried and tested with minimum mods.
I cant believe you need TBs bike carbs etc to get a quick car
I want it simple
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Originally posted by adithorp
Car engines...
Ford Pinto/Zetec/Duratec, Rover K series/V8, Vx RedTop. Toyata 4ag, Honda S2000....
Bike engine...
Honda Fireblades/Blackbird, Kwak zx9/10/11/12/14. Suzuki 'busa, Yamaha R1's....
Rule out the Pinto as it's a bit old hat, S3000 great engine bit complicated to fit, Blackbird and Busa need drysump if you want them to last. Rover V8 probably not the best suited to track cars. That still leaves a long list without more info.
BEC is probably the best option for mostly track use but then we;re starting to open another can of worms.
adrian
cheers for the info chaps
I think a bike engine is the way to go given whats been said.
Thanks
now then interested party...this is your field of expertise.
see if you can keep it under 2000 words
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Originally posted by alawrence
now then interested party...this is your field of expertise.
see if you can keep it under 2000 words
xxx
Blimey, way to start an argument alawrence 
Your questions are undoubtedly vauge so deserve suitable vaue answers which is exactly what you have got. Unless someone writes out the pros and cons
of every option then I doubt you will be satisfied.
I'll say now though, drop your attitude or you will find people will be unwilling to help you out - the worst thing you can do is alienate the
helpful people on here.
But FWIW:
What race series are you planning to enter? - if its the locost series I believe you are restricted to the 1300 xflow. Other 750mc will allow bike
engines I believe.
None of these cars are complex - even mine with the supercharger isnt complicated when you break it down. If you do your research then anything is
possible.
TB's are no big hassle, neither is fuel injection. IMO both are well worthwhile if you want the best from whatever engine you fit especially if
you want to track the car - unless its prohibited in the race series you want to enter.
Car engine wise, if you want minimum mods, bolt in power then zetec is simple and cheap. Not the most powerful by any stretch. The duratec is worth
the extra effort and provides the same power as a highly tuned zetec,, but in standard form.
Bike engines - all are relatively straightforward to install.
^^^Good point... well made!^^^
Chaps
I think the operative word is "helpful ".
I’ve had some great advice from people on here even when the question may not be up to your standard.
However as an engineer of 25 years experience if I have learned one thing its recognising BS when i hear it from armchair experts who are well read
but have actually done nothing.
You need to try and ensure that the person who needs advise is not belittled by the responses, instead of posting a response which is more for the
benefit of other members. Just remember that this forum is here to help people like me, not to show members how clever they THINK they are.
As for the "drop the attitude" comment i would like to think that we are all adults and as such that sort of play ground aggression has no
place here.
I would like to draw a line under this thread however i would like to bet that some of the less helpful members won’t be able to resist another
snipe.
[Edited on 25/10/10 by alawrence]
Disregarding all the fluff.............
Flakmonkey's engine setup is a very nice, sensible one, which makes bags of power and is very quick. (I imagine, though I've not been out in
it! )
My vauxhall XE is also quick
Throttle bodies are very easy, and very nice once set up.
pratting about with carburettors can be a pain, especially used, "cheap" ones.
Use whatever engine you want. They ALL have pros and cons, including the bike engines.
There are a lot of poorly executed cars out there, with both bike and car engine power.
There are some very quick cars running"poor" engines on paper.
everytime I see a good idea i change my mind thats the problem
I think im going to go for a part built project which somone else has already made the decision for me...Ive seen on on ebay and im gonna go for it..i
am ..i really am. I think
thanks for the info
Do it, don't do it...
I don't think anyone gives a s**t
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Originally posted by alawrence
You need to try and ensure that the person who needs advise is not belittled by the responses, instead of posting a response which is more for the benefit of other members. Just remember that this forum is here to help people like me, not to show members how clever they THINK they are.
i knew you would come out of the woodwork sooner or later...
how you doin sugarplumb xxx
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