what engines, appart from the old x-flow can fit into the Book chassis without headaches like bonnet bulges and modified sumps like with the pinto,
something with reasonable power/tuning potential and is not too expensive and not rare
cheers
Matt
Aha! The search for the Holy Grail
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Originally posted by BenB
Aha! The search for the Holy Grail
i bike engine />?
Cheep and cheerfull is the sierra 1.8cvh.
And free with the correct donnor.
I would start by saying something form a bike.
If its a CEC your after then the VX Red top takes some beating £ for £ imho.
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Originally posted by Jon Ison
If its a CEC your after then the VX Red top takes some beating £ for £ imho.
The pinto is easy, you can mod the sump etc yourself. X-flow is easiest requiring no mods and its a very light little engine too.
The bike engines need their sumps modding as they are mounted transverse in a bike and longitudinal in a seven, same with many newer 16v engines
including the zetec and red top. And almost all bike and 16v engines have ali sumps which you cant mod yourself unless you have an AC tig... Oh and
you will either need bike carbs or and after market injection/throttle body system for most injection car engines which can be big bucks
David
[Edited on 8/1/07 by flak monkey]
any suggestions on specific bike engines to look out for ?
i would love a hayabusa but i cant afford the £1500 price tag lol
car or bike engined im open minded at the miniute but ultimatley its going to be a £ vs Power decision
I'd agree BEC is the way to go for cheap poke per pound.... R1 seems to be flavour of the month at the moment. Cheap, good power output and not
very prone to going pop....
Most bike engines are already fairly highly tuned though so not much room for extra tuning potential (unless you start throwing money at
Holeshot)...
I'd agree with the VX red top for a CEC. Lots of cheap tuning parts thanks to the number of GM motors out there using them, shouldn't be at
all hard to find a bellhousing to mount to a type 9 gearbox etc....
Thought if I was going CEC I'd go for a Duratec because (as a new-ish engine) they already have a fair number of ponies and the outputs of tuned
Duratec engines is increasing all the time....
You could go Honda VTEC. After all, if they fitted on in the front of a Mini, a locost shouldn't be a problem.... And the Jap tuning scene
should provide lots of tuning goodies, and the VTEC provides flexibility.... Only trouble might be finding a bellhousing to attach to a type 9.... And
some Honda engines rotate the wrong way relative to most engines.....
[Edited on 8/1/07 by BenB]
because of your budget i'd get a xflow then think about a zetec upgrade later on using the same gear box
oh o,
This could end up in a discussion:
BEC
CEC
I'm using the DOHC
just make the sump shorter and use the MT75. But a lot modifing to the chassis.
one last question, other than the mk1/2 escorts, what can i get a xflow out of?
the escorts can now fetch £1k so for me there well out of the question...
Don't forget the Toyota 4AGE engine - 1600cc, about 130BHP out of the box (I believe) and the core of the engine is about the same size as the
crossflow. Unfortunately the add-ons bulk up the size and make a bit hard to fit in, but many people manage to do it with a bit of work.
A very whizzy engine that goes well in such a light car.
David
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Originally posted by novacaine
one last question, other than the mk1/2 escorts, what can i get a xflow out of?
the escorts can now fetch £1k so for me there well out of the question...
i might have a fireblade 918 engine up for sale with loom dyno jetted,exhaust (mk), ETC, for the right price
som
ething like this link
would be the thing to go for if you're going CEC....
It's already attached to a type 9 gearbox, its got the Webers already attached....
Looks pretty read to go...
Can't understand with the obsession with Webers. Yes, they look beautiful, yes, they sound great... But they're not the best for fuel
economy! I saw one BEC that had the 90s carbs ripped off to be replaced with 60s Weber technology.... Cost an arm and a leg and didn't make any
difference!!!
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Originally posted by novacaine
any suggestions on specific bike engines to look out for ?
i would love a hayabusa but i cant afford the £1500 price tag lol
car or bike engined im open minded at the miniute but ultimatley its going to be a £ vs Power decision
Show me the Busa engine for £1,500. I'll take two.
Phil
Iv got a zetec with type 9 in my book chassis. The only mod is taller bodywork.
Bike carbs and megajolt, away you go.
Put this one in...........
http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Main.htm
do bellhousings to fit the VX to a type 9 BTW....
I'd like to see the tacho graph before I believe the "1600BHP R34 Nissan Skyline" claim. After all, what to most rolling roads go up
to??? 
I suppose it's possible if you're prepared to put up with obscene amounts of turbo lag.......
if ya see a blade for £250 - give us a shout!
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Originally posted by doughie
if ya see a blade for £250 - give us a shout!
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Can't understand with the obsession with Webers. Yes, they look beautiful, yes, they sound great... But they're not the best for fuel economy! I saw one BEC that had the 90s carbs ripped off to be replaced with 60s Weber technology.... Cost an arm and a leg and didn't make any difference!!!
For cheap I agree with Big_wasa.
1.8 CVH in totally standard trim gives about 90BHP which is plenty to start with in a locost.
My indy goes quite well with one, ann IMHO its a lot better than a rattly old crossflow unless you want to spend lots of money tuning.
Stu
The Kawasaki ZX11/ZZR1100 is worth a look in my opinion. It was produced for 12 years so there are plenty to be had for around £500 mark. They've
got a nice big clutch as standard and they're 147hp. Value for money if you ask me. Watch out for "running" N0.3 big end though.
Davie
[Edited on 8/1/07 by daviep]
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Originally posted by BenB
Can't understand with the obsession with Webers. Yes, they look beautiful, yes, they sound great... But they're not the best for fuel economy!
if you want a bike engine get a cbr100f or a zx10 ,i bought a complete zx10 road legal for £600 which has all the bits i need and last week i picked
up a cbr1000f with scuffed panels for £375 ,both a bit lardy but cheaper than most car engines once you,ve got them running