Simon
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| posted on 27/12/05 at 01:33 AM |
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Computerised MOT's
Peeps,
I've passed the SVA and am thinking about getting an MOT before registration (for the fun of it, to cover all bases, basically).
Can the new computerised MOT's be done on just a chassis number?
The chap from the SVA place didn't think I'd need one, but don't want to not have one and be asked for it!!
Cheers
ATB
Simon
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andybod
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| posted on 27/12/05 at 08:11 AM |
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mot tester's can override the info on the computer and manually enter the info so yep you can still get it done just not sure how many testers
know how to do it
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Humbug
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| posted on 27/12/05 at 08:43 AM |
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You don't need an MOT and should be asked for one because MOT is only required 3 years after the date of first regustration. As you car
hasn't been registered before, then date of first registration will be when you go in to the DVLA.
(I didn't get an MOT and had no trouble at Maidstone DVLA, btw)
Some people who have done an MOT before registering have then had the hassles of reminders arefter 1 year and 2 years as well.
Better off going to a garage and asking for an inspection which does the same tests as an MOT.
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Genesis
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| posted on 27/12/05 at 09:33 AM |
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I know when I had an SVA they basically went through everything that an MOT goes through, except with more thoroughness - why bother it merely
complicates everything.
Going fishin'
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cornishrob
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| posted on 27/12/05 at 11:06 AM |
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like humbug said, if im expecting a car to fail the MOT i get an inspection done before hand so that i can see what needs putting right rather than
spending out on an MOT. Its cheaper and it also means you dont get the fail points put on the cars record as all fails and recomendations are now
registered with the DVLA
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froggy
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| posted on 27/12/05 at 11:16 AM |
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the worst part of the new style tests is that if you fail on anything other than tyres or lights then the car must have a full retest which is
supposed to take 45mins.
now the tester will record any advice comments given which will go on the database so i imagine that the police will not only now know if your car is
fully road regal but also if there are any faults on the car which may not have been rectified at the mot ie: tyres near to legal limit without having
to stop you
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Marcus
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| posted on 27/12/05 at 11:58 AM |
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There are a few things tested on an MOT which aren't tested at SVA, ie horn operation and tyre tread depth. In theory, you could pass SVA,
register your car, tax it and STILL be pulled by plod for having an unroadworthy car!
You don't need an MOT for your car as it's not 3 years old - check DVLA website.
Marcus
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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rayward
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| posted on 27/12/05 at 12:26 PM |
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Be careful about the no MOT for 3 years thing, Because mine had an MOT test done , the Post office wouldn't tax it without one, was to do with
the new computer system apparantly(once its seen an MOT assumes the car needs one)some have managed to get the requirement taken off by speaking to
DVLA, but i spent nearly a day on the phone to VOSA and DVLA to no avail, was just easier to MOT it in the end.
Ray
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 27/12/05 at 01:00 PM |
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I'd stay well clear of the new MOT's there an absolute nightmare! a rip off and a massive inconvienience to all involved!
If there's no need don't put yourself through all the hassle.
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froggy
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| posted on 27/12/05 at 02:43 PM |
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il second that! the place i go to is prettty much all trade ,everyone is just dropping the cars off first thing in the morning and just hoping it will
get done the same day.
i can see that once everyone has changed over to the computer system a test will be £50 plus and full price for re-test.
the place i take class 7 to are allready charging full retail for test and retest so if you fail on say emissions its over £100
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Peteff
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| posted on 27/12/05 at 03:25 PM |
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My friend at the bike shop has gone onto the system and hates it. He has a look at the bikes before he logs on to test them and if there's
anything wrong he sends them away to fix it so he won't have to do a retest. People complain and don't realise he's doing them and
himself a favour.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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gazza285
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| posted on 27/12/05 at 07:29 PM |
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Bloke who does my testing gives me a pass with an advisory note about any work that needs doing, unless it's something really serious.
DO NOT PUT ON KNOB OR BOLLOCKS!
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Simon
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| posted on 27/12/05 at 07:38 PM |
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Blimey!!
Wasn't expecting quite such postive vibes about the new MOT.
Won't bother with one, as having read the "Registering Your Vehicle" pamphlet from DVLA, I concur with all comments re not three
years old etc.
Cheers chaps.
ATB
Simon
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cornishrob
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 05:37 PM |
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When i sold my last car i took it for the test and it failed on emissions, my own fault for hoping it wouldn't need both cats back in.
anyway it was 38 quid for the test and full price for the restest. they are required to charge full price as its another test, which makes things more
annoying for us motorists. I can see a lot of people not getting along with the new tests but if you know how to work them it wont cause any problems
for those of us who have more than a passing interest in cars.
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bigrich
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 11:51 PM |
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its not really the new system at fault its the fact that the old system was open to abuse it now stops garages booking in more tests than they can do
in theory so the reduced number of tests have to paid for by increased prices also retests where the tester would have a quick look and write out a
certificate now have to alocated a slot of time and as you all know time is money. don't be down on the system its just being used how
mot's should have been done all along
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 03:50 PM |
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There a Farce!
My everyday car failed 3 times for different things, lost use of the car for a whole week on petty minor things.
If the tester can't just quickly look over the bit you've repaired to make it pass in the same day then it has to go for a full retest RIP
OFF! no other words for it!
The main one that got me was, picked up on the 2nd test.
1. No rear brake pipe clips, when they have never ever been fitted to the car (even by the mfr)
And 1 tester said the handbrake needed adjusting at 47% efficiency when the others passed it, am certain it didn't need to be anything like that
efficient when I took the Indy for SVA.
Made my blood boil and my wallet sore! 
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JoelP
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 07:11 PM |
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my lil cars MOT ran out 6 months ago, cant be bothered with a new one since the mileage is so low. Not going to bother til the tax is due.
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bigrich
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 11:10 PM |
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seems youve had a rough ride mkindy7 i think you need a new testing station for next time btw foot brake efficiency is50% of kerbwieght, park brake is
16% for dual line systems and 25% if its single line
all i can say is not all testers are the same (some drive kits)
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andyps
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| posted on 31/12/05 at 01:39 PM |
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They don't have to charge for a re-test - I took my daughters car for a test at the end of November - it failed on three things, two of which I
sorted, the third the tester fixed (new steering rack on a Mini - not a job I fancied doing outside in the cold!) and I didn't get charged for a
retest. I think some will charge for it as the system will not allow them to have more than one car logged in at a time, and they have to spend a
certain amount of time on each car so effectively they cannot test another car whilst retesting one. If the tester does not have anything else but
tests to do they cannot make any money for over half an hour so may charge, but the charge is up to them.
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 31/12/05 at 06:09 PM |
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Think thats something to do with if it leaves the premesis.
If you take it away and fix it then they charge you for another test. (and possibly how well u know the tester)
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Simon
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| posted on 31/12/05 at 06:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MkIndy7
Think thats something to do with if it leaves the premesis.
If you take it away and fix it then they charge you for another test. (and possibly how well u know the tester)
Should be quite interesting to see how many members of public start fixing cars on dealer forecourts!!
ATB
Simon
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darrens
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| posted on 3/1/06 at 07:56 PM |
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just thought I'd add my two penny worth in, the new MOT procedure is causing a bit of a headache for all, just took my car (renault laguna) for
MOT and it failed on front brakes slightly out of balance, fair cop, not a major hasssle to change discs and pads, but because the tester got stuck on
the procedure for the data entry or what ever it is they do on the computer, he had to phone the help desk and was left on hold for minimum 35mins, I
say minimum because I had to leave, said I would be back tomorrow for retest.
From what I've read and heard it's causing allot of work for everyone. I will add though, that new things do tend to have their clitches
and hopefully given a few months should be straight forward then.
Darren
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bob
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| posted on 7/1/06 at 10:32 AM |
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When my road tax expired after the 1st year on the road my reminder quoted i needed a valid mot cert,i knew this was wrong and telephoned dvla who
were very helpfull and told me to take my V5 to the post office to proove registration.
All was well
2nd year came and same problem on reminder,jobsworth at postoffice counter didnt want to play so i payed up online which is possibly the best thing
they have ever added to the system.
Payed up online with bankers card on a weds eve and the tax disc arived in the post friday morn,and the best bit is no que at the po.
Although for the money a regular MOT is probably the cheapest car check up you are ever going to get
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