Deckman001
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 10:58 AM |
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Originally posted by Surrey Dave
When I spoke to Icondevs about the hubs they said that because of the expansion differences between ally and steel the bearings where a very tight
fit , which meant that the bearings had to be cooled and the hubs warmed in an oven to fit them easily, this was to stop the bearings being loose when
the hub warmed up in normal use, will your engineers take that into account?
Oh Yes  That's why I'm selling them as Bare Hubs cos i don't want the oven gas bill for heating up the 50 hubs !! 
And yes that's 25 sets being made
Jason
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Peteff
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 11:15 AM |
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Gas mark 7
1/2 an hour per pound plus another 1/2 hour should see them about done . What was the final price on them?
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Surrey Dave
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 11:16 AM |
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I would like a pair if the price is right!
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whpracer
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 11:25 AM |
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Is it still possilble to add one to your order list ?
and are you willing to send it to holland or could i pick it up at the kitcar show in stoneleight ?
greetz whpracer
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Deckman001
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 11:27 AM |
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It Will be under £50 per hub or I'm not bothering, no final costs until they make one, Dave, I know !!
Jason
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Deckman001
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 11:33 AM |
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If payment is received to cover postage, I'll send them anywhere
I have 3 definates, that leaves 22 sets for the ' I'll have em depending on cost' I'll give first refusal on a first come
first served basis to those posting on here in order of posting.
I will make the 25 sets regardless and see how it goes, cost allowing that is !!
Jason
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ned
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 11:38 AM |
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Perhaps a name list would be good to give Jason an idea of numbers? with a D for definite or an I for interested.
1. D Ned.
2. I Surrey Dave
3. I Paulf
4. I Avoneer
5. I Fozzie
6. D Scutter
7. I Northy
8. I NS Dev
9. I pk
10. I Kissy
11. I Whpracer
12. I MikeR
amend/update as necessary..!
Ned.
ps list not in any order, perhaps jason you can re-order them lol
[Edited on 11/3/05 by ned]
beware, I've got yellow skin
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MikeR
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 11:49 AM |
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ok, add me to the interested price dependent.
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ned
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 11:52 AM |
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Jason,
Just a thought, you could put the first tested/sample on ebay to gauge the interest there, sure you won't have problems shifting them on a buy
it now basis or even as an open auction..
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Deckman001
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 12:06 PM |
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The list is in this order
me D
GasGasGas D
Fozzie D
scutter D
Ned D
Surrey Dave I
Paulf I
avoneer I
Northy I
NsDev I
pk I
Kissy D
MikeR I
whpracer I
robby D
Jason
[Edited on 17/3/05 by Deckman001]
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Deckman001
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 12:07 PM |
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Ned Thanks, but I'm a locoster so will sell to people here first, if there are any left then they go to highest bidder
Jason
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ned
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 12:22 PM |
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that's what i meant unless you want to make more sets up to sell at extorionate amounts of money to those silly ebayers remember i got
£820 for a set of 45's 
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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James
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 01:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
That sounds right, yes. The alloy will tend to get "hammered" by the bearing outer race as it rotates and then allow the outer race to
"walk" around in the hub.
So yes, the race will probably want to be a shrink fit or good press fit.
Haing said that, I havent done it so I don't know!
It would be easy and cheap to get the bearing area of the hub shot peened to toughen it up if it's a worry.
Cheers,
James
[Edited on 11/3/05 by James]
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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gazza285
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 03:14 PM |
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quote:
It would be easy and cheap to get the bearing area of the hub shot peened to toughen it up if it's a worry.
How would that help?
[Edited on 11/3/05 by gazza285]
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James
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 04:34 PM |
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It would help as certain areas of the hub (the area onto which the bearing carrier goes) would be tougher as a result of the peaning. Therefore less
prone to wear from the bearing carrier moving against it. The bearing would therefore not have to be fitted so tight in the first place- allowing
potentially for home fitment.
Anyway, maybe it wouldn't help but an interesting idea nonetheless!
Cheers,
James
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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ned
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 04:45 PM |
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James,
The whole point is that the bearing should be a good fit and never move around in the first place afaik
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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gazza285
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 05:01 PM |
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I know shot peaning is used to reduce stress raisers but to toughen alloy surfaces, that's a new one on me.
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James
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 05:11 PM |
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I'm pretty sure it's used in Formula 1 to surface toughen gears.
James
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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clbarclay
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 05:17 PM |
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I can tell you from experiance that a lose bearing shell rapidly wears away even cast iron. Not a pritty sight to sort out.
As for the shot peening, are you talking about 'work hardening'?
I know that work hardening increases strength (not 100% sure though, may be wrong if so please correct me) but not sure that it affects wear rates.
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James
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 05:52 PM |
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As I said, it probably wouldn't work. In fact maybe it's not even used on alloy. Formula 1 gears are of course a tough alloy steel in the
first place. But they are peened to give the first 1or2mm of surface a tougher finish.
First likely looking link off Google:
http://www.avcorp.com/shot-peening.asp
All I was thinking was that getting a bearing shink fitted can't be that easy. Maybe peening would have toughened the alloy enough for you to be
able to fit it yourself.
Probably not though so I'll shut up!
Cheers,
James
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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NS Dev
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 07:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by clbarclay
I can tell you from experiance that a lose bearing shell rapidly wears away even cast iron. Not a pritty sight to sort out.
As for the shot peening, are you talking about 'work hardening'?
I know that work hardening increases strength (not 100% sure though, may be wrong if so please correct me) but not sure that it affects wear rates.
not thinking of 2wd tractor front wheel bearings???? done a few of those in the past!!!
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NS Dev
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 07:17 PM |
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It's nothing to worry about, no need for peening etc, as long as the fit is tighter than that used on a steel housing, that's all, lets
not get carried away. Other thing (expecially on a low mileage car like this) is to also loctite the outer races before pressing them in.
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gazza285
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 07:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by James
All I was thinking was that getting a bearing shink fitted can't be that easy.
One in the oven, one in the freezer and a big hammer! If you want to be careful, a copper and hide hammer. If you've got the money, a press.
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clbarclay
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 08:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
quote:
Originally posted by clbarclay
I can tell you from experiance that a lose bearing shell rapidly wears away even cast iron. Not a pritty sight to sort out.
As for the shot peening, are you talking about 'work hardening'?
I know that work hardening increases strength (not 100% sure though, may be wrong if so please correct me) but not sure that it affects wear rates.
not thinking of 2wd tractor front wheel bearings???? done a few of those in the past!!!
4wd actually, was a case of filling the gap with weld and gring it back. Before it was fixed it was about half a turn on the steering wheel before the
front wheels turned 
[Edited on 11/3/05 by clbarclay]
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Kissy
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| posted on 14/3/05 at 08:13 AM |
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Make me a 'D'
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