malcolmstoddart
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| posted on 30/1/04 at 09:12 PM |
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Robin hood chassis...
Has anyone seen the chassis design from Robin Hood....
http://www.robinhoodengineering.co.uk/whats%20new.htm
Now I just wanted peoples opinions on this, it doesn't mean I am gonna buy one!!
cheers
Mal...
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 30/1/04 at 09:16 PM |
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no, but i have now, mmmmmmmmmmm they are just down road from me, think i will go n take a spy.
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bob
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| posted on 30/1/04 at 10:18 PM |
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I saw this chassis at exeter last year,i actually thought it was a very early or even a very late april fools gag
It looked dreadfull,i think we dubbed it the cheese grater.LOL
There isnt a weld anywhere as its completely held together with rivets,the finished car had been pinned together with self tappers.
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chrisg
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| posted on 30/1/04 at 11:04 PM |
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The only seven Stevie Wonder can read.
Hideous
Cheers
Chris
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 30/1/04 at 11:59 PM |
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it looks like a tank.
strange business model. Stop selling everything for a year so you can make summat new, then delete the car you launched 'in a blaze of
glory' (!) - the subK - just a year before.
Fantastic names. 2b and SubK
wonder what he called his kids?
f^ck and s^ag perhaps?
atb
steve
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 31/1/04 at 09:11 AM |
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Perhaps someone repossessed his CNC pipe bending machine, but left the rivet gun?
It would make sense
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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Viper
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| posted on 31/1/04 at 01:34 PM |
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that's just how F1 tubbs used to be made years ago..
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Alan B
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| posted on 31/1/04 at 01:48 PM |
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Following on from Viper...
Yeah my first thought was...."ah, OK a rivetted ally monocoque...seems OK..."
What am I missing?....is it not what it seems when you see it in person?
Not defending RH here, just trying to be neutral...
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 31/1/04 at 01:52 PM |
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lets say imho of course,i have seen their efforts in the past and rather you than me
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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malcolmstoddart
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| posted on 31/1/04 at 02:51 PM |
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so the general opinion is that you lot don't like it...!!! just thought I would ask..
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JoelP
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| posted on 31/1/04 at 04:27 PM |
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i would, myself, have to know the weight, rigidity and fatigue resistance of the chassis to form an opinion. if it is primarily safe, then strong and
light , then i would be impressed. It might look like a cheese grater and come from a company with a not perfect reputaton, but it might be the new
sliced bread...
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GO
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| posted on 31/1/04 at 04:32 PM |
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I like the idea, but as JoelP says, it all comes down to the figures and whther its up to the job!
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jonti
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| posted on 31/1/04 at 04:52 PM |
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Speaking as ,I think, the only person in the UK (or anywhere else) who ever purcased their 'Lolocost' I.R.S Chassis back in 2002 ( my God
I was so innocent then !!) I would advise extreme caution to anyone who considers this as an option.
My beast is now sorted, but the chassis took a LOT of fettling. The alignment of almost everything was wrong. As they actually state in their blurb,
this new design DEPENDS upon accurate machining and I'm afraid, in my experience their record aint good.
Go for an MK or Luego..I wish I had
[Edited on 1/2/04 by jonti]
OFROK
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200mph
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| posted on 31/1/04 at 05:27 PM |
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Even the name BOLTEON...whats that all about.
The words Bolt and On with an E in the middle.
why not RIVETEON? or ALUMINIUMEON
Highly imaginative and creative
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 31/1/04 at 10:17 PM |
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On the robin hood 2b list I once described the 2b as being like a lego kit compared to a locost - just scre it together.
I was lucky to get out alive.
basically, the 2b appears to be a collection of bits which, if enuf time is spent, can ACTUALLY be assembled, in some form or another, to resemble a
car. Again, only with copious fettling
atb
steve
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zetec
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| posted on 31/1/04 at 10:46 PM |
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Going slightly off topic...
Has anyone fitted a RH bonnet to their car. I would like to replace my fibreglass one with a ali one with cooling louvres, RH one looked good on the
stand.
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paulbeyer
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| posted on 1/2/04 at 03:42 PM |
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Bob and I took a good look at this chassis at the Exeter show and it was really nasty. I ran my hand along the inner passenger compartment side rail
and nearly sliced my finger off on the jagged edges.
I'm of the same opinion as others in that this could be a good idea for a new chassis design if the figures work out well, but as a product
from Robin Hood it was a nasty piece of work. The finished edges were razor sharp and the whole structural strength was reliant on rivets and hundreds
of self tapper screws.
I wouldn't want one.
7 out of 10 people suffer with hemorrhoids. Does that mean the other 3 enjoy them?
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Alan B
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| posted on 1/2/04 at 04:18 PM |
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They were really using self tappers in a stuctural application..??????
Wow....I hate them even for minor uses...
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bob
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| posted on 1/2/04 at 04:26 PM |
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Alan
Self tappers were holding all the bodywork on,and not even nice looing tappers either.
The whole chassis is folded from sheet ali with tabs cut and bent back to rivet to the next piece,looked very much like certain areas would tear under
strain.
It all looked a bit random where the rivets were placed and generaly very untidy,i think it might have even helped more if RH had made more effort in
presentation as it was the bad finishing that drew our attention to it.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 1/2/04 at 04:29 PM |
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I saw the beast at the Exeter show as well. I may(?) be a good design, but the execution was child like. you could see the penny stamps where a hammer
had been used to persuade unwilling ally to form the shape. Very C&N!
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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jonti
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| posted on 1/2/04 at 07:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
Basically, the 2b appears to be a collection of bits which, if enuf time is spent, can ACTUALLY be assembled, in some form or another, to resemble a
car. Again, only with copious fettling
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The 2b chassis actually seems to have a lot of space in between the steel and very little triangulation. The gaps between the rails look enormous.
That's why, cos I'd never heard of MK or Luego, I opted for the Lolocost IRS Chassis option. To be fair, it is at least made out of
decent sized tube, the joints are sleeved (I checked) and does have plenty of triangulation in it.
It looked great when I picked it up but when I started work on it and tried to do simple tasks, like make the wheels all point in the correct
direction, sort out castor angles etc, I relaised I'd bought a pile of Sh*te.
RHE attitude was "well you bought a chassis not a kit, you're on your own",...Nice !.... I had to cut the fekin front sus mounts
off and re-weld em they were so far out !
Lots of work later I have a reasonable motor but for the same price and with lots less work I could have had a better one from somewhere else. Indeed
the time I took sorting this one I could have made me own.
Nah...RHE ???? Be very careful !!!!!
I know, I was that soldier !
OFROK
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greggors84
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| posted on 1/2/04 at 09:35 PM |
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I was considering a 2B, but after speaking to someone who told me how he had to re jig his chassis, i looked else where....
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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dblissett
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| posted on 2/2/04 at 09:08 PM |
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robin hood
it looks like some thing wallace and gromit might of made
i for one will stick to rons chassis
cheers dave
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pauldm
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| posted on 27/3/04 at 08:57 PM |
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Google truth.
Is the 'google' search engine trying to tell us something re locost chasis ?
*** I want to die peacefully, in my sleep, like my grandfather,
not screaming, terrified, like his passengers.***
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Ian Pearson
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| posted on 27/3/04 at 09:42 PM |
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I've not seen their new chassis, so I can't comment. I've bought several bits from Robin Hood via Lolocst. Always been pleased with
the result, but then I've always inspected the stuff first. I bought an Autosparks loom off them, and when I realised that the steering sub loom
was missing, I rang to enquire if it was possible to buy one. Needless to say, I experienced their legendary after sales service, which left me raging
for a day or two. I vowed I would never buy anything from them again.......................However, I bought a book chassis that was made by them as a
one off. Just after I bought the chassis, a few people slated it on the original list, and never having seen another chassis, I thought I'd
bought a pile of pigeon poo. Having since seen several chassis from various manufacturers, my chassis is no better, but every bit as good as those
mentioned on this list on a daily basis.
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