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posted on 11/2/04 at 06:27 PM Reply With Quote
Starter button

One thing a superseven really needs: a starter button!!!
Anyone got a wiring diagram? Its cheaper to build one yourself, it's a locost after all!
It needs to cut out the starter when the engine is running, i dont want to trash my starter and ringgear!
Which signal to use for the cut-out?
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stephen_gusterson

posted on 11/2/04 at 06:40 PM Reply With Quote
dont press the button with the engine running?

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Julian B

posted on 11/2/04 at 07:43 PM Reply With Quote
Is this what you are after?


Have a look here. I have not tried it so i dont know if its any good !

http://www.larkspeed.com/pages/homepages/home.html


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posted on 11/2/04 at 07:55 PM Reply With Quote
Yes!
That's the one i mean, but i've several buttons liing around, but no relay or wiring diagram! It must be possible to build it myself!

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pbura

posted on 11/2/04 at 08:28 PM Reply With Quote
I had a '56 Jaguar XK140 (it was a piece of crap, actually) that had a starter switch and I loved it. The ignition key would turn on a dash light and start the fuel pump. Press the button and "Vroom!"

Stafford Vehicle Components has one for £8, good enough for me Probably cheaper units in electrical supply, but what the heck.

Good recent thread about starter buttons:

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=9726

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flak monkey

posted on 11/2/04 at 08:29 PM Reply With Quote
Surely you can just put the switch in the low current side of the circuit before the starter relay?

Trace the appropriate wires (the ones that become live in the start position [not the ignition position] on the switch) from your ignition switch and put the button in on those.

I havent done it so i dont know...but thats what i would try

And i realise that probably doesnt make any sense at all!

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stephen_gusterson

posted on 11/2/04 at 10:46 PM Reply With Quote
adding a starter switch is a peice of pi$$


its just a switch that supplies power to the starter solenoid. Just an ordinary (high current) push switch. The normal key will turn on ignition, and you just wire the switch to the terminals that are usually switched when the key is turned against the spring.


The proper way is like renault do it. One press starts the engine, second turns it off. I recon this could be done using a relay or two.

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blueshift

posted on 12/2/04 at 12:36 AM Reply With Quote
You could maybe wire it up with the oil pressure switch so that you couldn't run the starter when oil pressure was high. You'd need to wire it in with a relay and do something a bit cunning so the starter could continue to run while you held the button down after the oil had reached pressure, but wouldn't let you start it again until the oil pressure went low (engine stop)

addendum: maybe something like this:


[Edited on 12/2/04 by blueshift]

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Spyderman

posted on 12/2/04 at 01:35 PM Reply With Quote
Or even just use a relay with a feed from the charging circuit. When the charging circuit is powered the relay holds the circuit open or closed depending on where it's connected and stops button from working.





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PioneerX

posted on 12/2/04 at 02:47 PM Reply With Quote
I think if were goiung relay route than a latching relay, could be the best solution. I personally would use transistors to control the relay, but then were getting a little more technical.
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