russbost
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| posted on 2/3/09 at 08:05 PM |
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OMG I've bought a plane!!!
Been & gone & done it now! As the title this w/e I bought a plane
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Not quite as grand as it sounds, it may shock some of you to know you can buy & run a plane for not a lot more than a second car/mototbike!!
What's more this one will cruise at around 105/110knots (120-125MPH) on ordinary pump fuel at over 30 to the gallon! It won't transport any
lardy people tho'
There is of course the minor detail that you need to get your PPL - took me around 2 years & about £10k
So how many other pilots have we got on here?
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tegwin
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| posted on 2/3/09 at 08:10 PM |
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What is it? I assume that its a proper plane rather than a microlight thing? (They are starting to look more and more like light planes..)
I would be very interested to know how much you calculate your "per hour" cost to be including airframe, insurance and fuel...
I have a PPL.... But I wouldnt
be seen dead in a frigging plank 
[Edited on 2/3/09 by tegwin]
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greggors84
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| posted on 2/3/09 at 08:33 PM |
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My boss built his own plane with some help from some of the lads at work.
He was planning on selling it but was only getting silly offers so he has retaken his licence and will be using it again when the weather is
better.
Just cost him loads of money to service the prop though. About £1k if I remember.
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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chrisg
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| posted on 2/3/09 at 08:43 PM |
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Apparently Heather Mills used her divorce money to buy a plane...........
Now she can shave both her legs!
(I'll get me coat)
Cheers
Chris
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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fov
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| posted on 2/3/09 at 08:46 PM |
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Very nice!
Thats a Pulsar right? And from memory the one which went down after a seized engine a few years ago.
(im not a plane spotter, my instructor took great delight in showing the pictures of the plane on my second lesson, as he was involved with the plane
somehow  )
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edspurrier
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| posted on 2/3/09 at 08:46 PM |
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I've got a PPL but have hardley flown for the last year, decided to put the Tiger ahead. Now need some nice weather and I'll get my
tailwheel training finished
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cloudy
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| posted on 2/3/09 at 08:50 PM |
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I'd always planned to build one from a kit ala Mark evans - may I ask what sort of cost these are?
James
www.warnercars.com
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greggors84
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| posted on 2/3/09 at 08:58 PM |
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I too looked into it James while day dreaming one day!
I think starting at around £30k. Im sure the engines start at around £5k, also the equivalent of the SVA is obviously alot more invloved. They come
round at different stages of your build as you probably saw in A Plane is Born.
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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paulbeyer
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| posted on 2/3/09 at 09:38 PM |
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I'm training for my PPL-B Hot Air Balloon pilots licence at the moment. Does that count?
7 out of 10 people suffer with hemorrhoids. Does that mean the other 3 enjoy them?
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russbost
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| posted on 2/3/09 at 10:29 PM |
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"Very nice!
Thats a Pulsar right? And from memory the one which went down after a seized engine a few years ago.
(im not a plane spotter, my instructor took great delight in showing the pictures of the plane on my second lesson, as he was involved with the plane
somehow )"
This site never ceases to amaze me!!!
Yes absolutely spot on a coolant hose fractured & the engine seized & it was force landed in the Scottish Highlands!
I've seen the pics & certainly wouldn't have fancied putting anything down there myself. It's all been rebuilt since then, new
undercarriage, rads, battery, interior, repainted & a zero timed engine.
It is indeed a Pulsar, still made in the States I believe but no distributor over here at present, you can buy second hand for around £15k. Building
brand new I doubt you'd have any change out of £25k (that's like £250 only with more 000's!!)
Hourly rate I haven't worked out accurately, but even if you were only doing the hours to keep up your licence it would still come out cheaper
then hiring school planes. It's not a microlight, tho' the whole plane weighs about 230kgs!!!, Yes, really - I reckon we could learn a
lot from the aircraft industry! But because it's a permit plane rather than on C of A you can maintain it yourself so costs are dramatically
cut. I can't actually fly it at present as Ihave to get a tailwheel conversion, but should be able to do the conversion in my own plane, hence
cost about £150 rather than about £1500!
I no longer run Furore Products or Furore Cars Ltd, but would still highly recommend them for Acewell dashes, projector headlights, dominator
headlights, indicators, mirrors etc, best prices in the UK! Take a look at http://www.furoreproducts.co.uk/ or find more parts on Ebay, user names
furoreltd & furoreproducts, discounts available for LCB users.
Don't forget Stainless Steel Braided brake hoses, made to your exact requirements in any of around 16 colours.
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/furoreproducts/m.html?_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_sop=12&_rdc=1
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 2/3/09 at 10:45 PM |
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so any of your plane experts care to explain a few things to me?
Could I pass a test (PPL or PLL or soemthing I think I've read) that allows me to fly me and my family to say.... south of france?
The plane would need to be a four seater, but I;ve seen a few of them up for sale as a "1/10th share" etc. - but what is all this talk of
costs? I;ve seen £60 per month/ £70 per hour wet.
Does that mean that as 10th part owner I have to pay £60 per month toward general upkeep/storage costs, and then if I actually want to fly I have to
pay £70 per hour of flying time?
What other nasties are there? surely airports charge you to fly in/out of them?
Just trying to get a rounded understanding of it, as I've always fancied it - but its quite firmly filed away under "pipe dream"
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MikeR
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| posted on 2/3/09 at 10:59 PM |
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Knew a bloke who had a part share in a twin engined thingy. He could only afford to fly it to france to fill up on fuel and fly it back (fuel was a
lot cheaper when i talked to him 10 years ago). His wife left him and his bank manager gave him an ultimatum - sell the plane or i'm bankrupting
you!
he sold the plane.
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splitrivet
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| posted on 2/3/09 at 11:16 PM |
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Its not a case of OMG Ive got a plane more a case of OMG Ive got to pay for the upkeep of a plane.
Ive got PPL & PPL microlight flexwing, Microlights are more fun and cheaper but in this country with the weather you can count your flying
opportunity's on the fingers of one hand.
Nice plane though Russ.
Cheers,
Bob
[Edited on 2/3/09 by splitrivet]
I used to be a Werewolf but I'm alright nowwoooooooooooooo
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RK
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| posted on 3/3/09 at 01:09 AM |
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I spent 10 years as a Commercial bush and waterbomber pilot in Northern Canada. I came out of it with my life, and that makes everything from now on
gravy.
Anybody wanting to become a pilot should come to Canada or the US and save themselves a bundle. Flying makes kit cars seem like good deals.
Essentially, do it often, or die. Simple.
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Simon
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| posted on 3/3/09 at 01:09 AM |
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Nearly got my weightshift moiclolight license.
Did all exams, most of solo hours and gft, but ran out of holiday time/money to do cross countries.
My instructor moved to France about 15 years ago, so I went there in '99.
Then kids and Ron Champion came along
ATB
Simon
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russbost
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| posted on 3/3/09 at 09:01 AM |
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"Could I pass a test (PPL or PLL or soemthing I think I've read) that allows me to fly me and my family to say.... south of france?
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Simple answer is yes, but if you want to fly to France you need PPL(A) which is what I've got, despite anything the flying clubs will tell you
to do it in this country will cost around £10k (including equipment,exams, landing fees etc.). You can go for NPPL which is less hours & therefore
cheaper, but you can only fly within the UK.
"The plane would need to be a four seater, but I;ve seen a few of them up for sale as a "1/10th share" etc. - but what is all this
talk of costs? I;ve seen £60 per month/ £70 per hour wet."
Most syndicates won't let you in till you have 100 hours+ experience (I currently have around 80). Most 4 seaters are C of A aircraft which can
be horrifically expensive to maintain, there are a few permit 4 seaters around, but many are wooden construction & need hangaring or will go
rotten £60/month would be to cover insurance, hangarage, general expenses, £70/hr wet means that is the cost to fly the plane for one tacho hour
(usually actually about 1.2 real hours) including fuel - older planes can burn an incredible amount of fuel, some modern ones are just as incredible
in the lack of burning it!
"What other nasties are there? surely airports charge you to fly in/out of them?"
Landing fees vary enormously from free or £5 up to literally hundreds if you wanted to land at a major international airport (even if they'd let
you in), typically £10 - £20. What I'm doing is farm strip flying, I pay no landing fees at the strip where the plane is based, included within
£60/month rent, I'm building a little "T" hangar for the plane so it doesn't have to stand outside but doesn't cost me
for full hangarage, tho'I do have access to a hangar for doing maintenance etc - i am doing this about the cheapest way possible. With C of A
aircraft you could pay £15k for an old cessna or PA28 then get caught for around the same again when it comes up for annual inspection If you buy a
C of A plane near the end of it's engine life that could easily be another £10k They will also be burning around 25 - 30 litres an hour to do
around 100mph.
HTH
I no longer run Furore Products or Furore Cars Ltd, but would still highly recommend them for Acewell dashes, projector headlights, dominator
headlights, indicators, mirrors etc, best prices in the UK! Take a look at http://www.furoreproducts.co.uk/ or find more parts on Ebay, user names
furoreltd & furoreproducts, discounts available for LCB users.
Don't forget Stainless Steel Braided brake hoses, made to your exact requirements in any of around 16 colours.
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/furoreproducts/m.html?_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_sop=12&_rdc=1
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iank
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| posted on 3/3/09 at 09:44 AM |
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Had a trainer come in to do a course a month ago and he got onto his flying hobby. Referred to his weekend as going out for a £500 bacon sandwich -
as most people fly from their home airfield out to another one have a snack at the destination airfield, fill up and fly home.
He had a share in a piper somethingorother which sounded ruinously expensive to keep in the air. That said he was about the most enthusiastic person
I've ever talked to when he was on the subject of flying.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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02GF74
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| posted on 3/3/09 at 10:12 AM |
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I too have a plain ....
..... naan, but prefer peshwari.
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clutch_kick
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| posted on 5/3/09 at 06:01 PM |
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Nice peice of kit!! I thought the Pulsar was quicker thou ?!?
Anyways ... with the size of that thingie ... you better keep your seperation from my wake turbulence lol
Enjoy it!!! I am jealous! It is a real beaut!
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