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Author: Subject: This SURELY can't be legal!!!
Omni

posted on 1/6/09 at 08:28 AM Reply With Quote
This SURELY can't be legal!!!

CAR FOR SALE ON EBAY

QUOTE.... "the car has not been SVA has it is relisted as a dutton" and it has a set of plates on it! WTF?

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theconrodkid

posted on 1/6/09 at 08:38 AM Reply With Quote
reg no comes up as a sierra





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nick205

posted on 1/6/09 at 08:39 AM Reply With Quote
Time to log on and ask some questions...?






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Omni

posted on 1/6/09 at 08:40 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
reg no comes up as a sierra


LMFAO!!!! Oh dear....

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stevec

posted on 1/6/09 at 09:01 AM Reply With Quote
seems to be a 1983 2.0ltr Sierra
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Daddylonglegs

posted on 1/6/09 at 09:27 AM Reply With Quote
Did I misread the reg? TWP 369Y?

It came up as a Dutton sports?





It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......

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theconrodkid

posted on 1/6/09 at 09:58 AM Reply With Quote
looks like 363y to me but then my eyes aint what they used to be





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posted on 1/6/09 at 10:21 AM Reply With Quote
Yup its 369Y A Dutton still aint an MK- I've asked him about it too :-) wonbder if he'll reply!





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Humbug

posted on 1/6/09 at 10:23 AM Reply With Quote
I think it's 363Y... I'll be interested to see what his replies are (let us know). Sounds also like a report to eBay of an illegal item for sale (passing off a Dutton as an MK) = ringing?
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motorcycle_mayhem

posted on 1/6/09 at 10:30 AM Reply With Quote
Yep, Dutton Sports is quite errr... 'legal', or it was in the early days. I built a Dutton Melos, registered as a Dutton Sports.... simply built it using my old 1300cc Ford, went down the road, got an MoT and told the DVLC that it had changed it's body type to 'Dutton Sports'. It then sprouted a V8, followed by several other lumps, then went IRS before some early bike engine experimentation and it's destruction at Lydden. All delightfully untroubled by legislation, memories.

Comparing that to now, where now 3 years after the harrowing SVA, I now need to spend a several hours bolting on exhausts/catalysts/etc., for emmissions, etc., at MoT time. Engine changes may involve taxation class changes, etc..... not that it matters, the Cameras are all out there to get me. Paranoia, you bet.

Anyway, sorry, yes. This car may well have got a V5 from an obscure route, but heck, when I was teenager, this was OK (so was taking drugs)...

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Humbug

posted on 1/6/09 at 10:46 AM Reply With Quote
errr... yes, but using the reg from a Dutton and putting it on a car built using a different chassis doesn't quite meet current IVA/DVLA rules
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James

posted on 1/6/09 at 11:05 AM Reply With Quote
I'm loving all this righteous indignation from the people on here!!!

Who the f'#k cares what they're selling on ebay.

It's hardly as if we're paragons of virtue on this site! With our SVA bodges that 'fall off' 2 miles down the road, emissions re-mapping after tests, having 2 cars with same details etc. etc.

Let him get on with it and buyer beware IMO.

Cheers,
James

[Edited on 1/6/09 by James]





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MakeEverything

posted on 1/6/09 at 11:11 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by motorcycle_mayhemParanoia, you bet.


Just because youre paranoid, it doesnt mean theyre not out to get you!





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NigeEss

posted on 1/6/09 at 11:17 AM Reply With Quote
Space framed kit car with GRP body, al the same aren't they


You should read some of the rants on other forums regarding tax exempt Land Rovers that have
been stretched a few inches !





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Dick Axtell

posted on 1/6/09 at 11:31 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Humbug
I think it's 363Y... I'll be interested to see what his replies are (let us know). Sounds also like a report to eBay of an illegal item for sale (passing off a Dutton as an MK) = ringing?


Ditto.

AFAIR, vehicles registered (ahem!!) "...incorrectly...", are liable to be confiscated by the constabulary, and possibly crushed.
Has this actually happened yet??





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Dick Axtell

posted on 1/6/09 at 11:38 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NigeEss
You should read some of the rants on other forums regarding tax exempt Land Rovers that have been stretched a few inches !


Aaah......the old favourite, Land Rover. Sorry to repeat myself, (have listed this previously), I frequently encounter a 1963 reg LR, which clearly has -
i) Range Rover wheels, and
ii) Defender chassis + suspension.
iii) Series 2 bodywork + updated mods.

When was the Defender version (i.e. coil sprung) first produced? Bet it wasn't 1963!!!

On the other hand, the vehicle has clearly been rebuilt using a factory-produced chassis (factory-built = type approved??).

[Edited on 1/6/09 by Dick Axtell]





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Snuggs

posted on 1/6/09 at 12:05 PM Reply With Quote
Reported to eBay.

Ar$eholes like him give the kit car world a bad name.

As it is not correctly registered then it will NOT be insured.

SVA/IVA is there for a reason.





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02GF74

posted on 1/6/09 at 12:47 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by James
I'm loving all this righteous indignation from the people on here!!!

Who the f'#k cares what they're selling on ebay.

It's hardly as if we're paragons of virtue on this site! With our SVA bodges that 'fall off' 2 miles down the road, emissions re-mapping after tests, having 2 cars with same details etc. etc.

Let him get on with it and buyer beware IMO.




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tomprescott

posted on 1/6/09 at 01:15 PM Reply With Quote
I'm with snuggs, I can see James' point bout some of our bits and bobs that fall off after SVA, but at SVA you will have built the car and know whats going on with it; selling a bodged car on ebay is fraudulent in my opinion!
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richardh

posted on 1/6/09 at 01:52 PM Reply With Quote
better her getting stabbed than me and leaving my son fatherless.
She's had her innings anyway!





Time for a change!

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motorcycle_mayhem

posted on 1/6/09 at 02:19 PM Reply With Quote
Hmmm.... well lets hack the back out of a pre-72 Mini, add IRS and a Hayabusa. Hell, while we're at it, lets replace the front end with something as well.

Done?, Good!

Just take it down the road and MoT it as a Mini 1300....

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coozer

posted on 1/6/09 at 03:19 PM Reply With Quote
TWP369Y is on the Motor Insurance Database today

The details on the MID are:

Vehicle Make/Model: DUTTON SPORTS


Clearly an illegal reg swap. Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole





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Thinking about it

posted on 1/6/09 at 08:10 PM Reply With Quote
Could the car be presented for sva/iva as a new build?
Leaving the dodgy identity behind.

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M$RK_VXRD

posted on 2/6/09 at 02:54 AM Reply With Quote
yes but you would need to get some recipets and build photos so you would probly need to rebuild it anyway!!
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FEZ1025

posted on 2/6/09 at 04:48 AM Reply With Quote
How about this one, also registered as a Dutton, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DUTTON-GT-40-Ford-GT40-Replica_W0QQitemZ260417140035QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item3ca2123543&_trksid=p3286.c0.m 14&_trkparms=66%3A4|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A200

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