flak monkey
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 11:55 AM |
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Some engine weights, inc duratec and XE
A few people have been asking for a comparison of engine weights
These weights are for bare engines, block, head assembly complete with flywheel but no clutch!
Standard Duratec 85kg (less clutch/alt) with lightweight flywheel
Standard K-Series 89kg (less clutch/alt)
Standard Vauxhall XE 110kg
AFAIK the XE and Zetecs are similar in weight?
[Edited on 9/9/09 by flak monkey]
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CraigJ
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 12:05 PM |
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Is the duratec an all alloy block/head? Quite surprised by that weight.
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flak monkey
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 12:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by CraigJ
Is the duratec an all alloy block/head? Quite surprised by that weight.
Yep certainly is.
With std dual mass flywheel the weight is 92 kg
[Edited on 9/9/09 by flak monkey]
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hughpinder
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 12:11 PM |
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I weighed my 2.0 zetec silvertop with all the standard mondeo fittings, complete with starter, my engine mounts (originals removed), alternator,
clutch/flywheel, MTX75 gearbox(which is quite a lump on its own), driveshafts, instruments and engine loom, all rubber hoses that fit to the engine
and the water header tank, engine and gearbox oil E.g. as I will use it in my midi. No inlet or exhaust manifold though, came in at 188 kg using a
pair of salter scales. The scales agree on my weight (87 kg) to within 1 kg of the reading I get on the 'proper' scales at my local
leisure centre.
I remember vaguely that the 2.0 Zetec E is 18KG heavier than a duratec 2.0, but can't remember where I got that info.
Regards
Hugh
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 12:15 PM |
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an XE is not by any means 110kg. Perhaps as a bare engine with no manifolds or ancillaries!!
I weighed the one I put in my corsa with both manifolds, loom, ecu, pot flywheel (3.2kg heavier than the lighter one) starter, alt, belts and pulleys
fitted and it was 155kg.
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 12:16 PM |
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the XE is 120kg fully prepped as far as I'm aware, re: QED motorsport.
or theres always:
Craig
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flak monkey
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 12:19 PM |
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All those weights are BARE engines. No ancils or clutches. Just the block, head and flywheel.
David
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 12:34 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
All those weights are BARE engines. No ancils or clutches. Just the block, head and flywheel.
David
sorry, realised that after I posted, doh!
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blakep82
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 12:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
the XE is 120kg fully prepped as far as I'm aware, re: QED motorsport.
or theres always:
 i bet thats nice and cheap
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 12:40 PM |
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about 3k new iirc and they only did a limited run of them.
Not a chance you'd catch me using one and risking the tens of thousands in a proper build on an alloy block of unproven strength.
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omega0684
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 12:55 PM |
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you forgot to do the pinto! 
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 01:12 PM |
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you forgot to do the pinto!
not a pair of scales made that could weigh that
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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blakep82
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 02:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
you forgot to do the pinto!
not a pair of scales made that could weigh that
well, the queen mary 2 is 148528 tonnes...
i wonder how they weigh ships?
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 02:21 PM |
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They don't, one knows the underwater volume from the drawings and the draught marks and then using the density of the water in which shes lying
one can calculate the mass by Archimedes principle
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 02:23 PM |
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one's a clever bugger 
Craig
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 02:34 PM |
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One's a Naval Architect
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 02:56 PM |
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thats the thing about One, I hear they do every job going, and have a degree in every subject.
If One doesn't know something, theres always another One who does.
Very very useful
Craig
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jimgiblett
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 03:38 PM |
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But a pinto won't float
- Jim
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CraigJ
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 03:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jimgiblett
But a pinto won't float
- Jim
Thats why its known as a boat anchor.
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Doofus
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 04:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by alistairolsen
They don't, one knows the underwater volume from the drawings and the draught marks and then using the density of the water in which shes lying
one can calculate the mass by Archimedes principle
So what you are saying is we should throw all the Pintos in the drink and measure how much the tide comes in....
Then we know how light they are
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blakep82
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 05:58 PM |
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ah, i was hoping for some kind of dry dock weigh bridge
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 07:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Doofus
quote:
Originally posted by alistairolsen
They don't, one knows the underwater volume from the drawings and the draught marks and then using the density of the water in which shes lying
one can calculate the mass by Archimedes principle
So what you are saying is we should throw all the Pintos in the drink and measure how much the tide comes in....
Then we know how light they are
Fantastic
I got a Zetec delivered to my house a few days ago and FOOK ME its heavy....against a bike engine.
What is the differential between the crossflow weight to Zetec weight.
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MikeR
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 08:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
I got a Zetec delivered to my house a few days ago and FOOK ME its heavy....against a bike engine.
What is the differential between the crossflow weight to Zetec weight.
Somewhere between "Ow" and "Owww Owww fuulming heck ow"
(aka i managed to knock my zetec off my build trolley and 'catch' it with my leg)
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 09:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
What is the differential between the crossflow weight to Zetec weight.
Not very much, the zetec is something like 10-15kg heavier IIRC.
Had to help a friend move some stuff in his garage a while back and he has a zetec ready for his Mk2 Escort. The two of us lifted it and I was
surprised at how light it felt, though it didn't have a flywheel on it.
[Edited on 9/9/09 by MikeRJ]
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graememk
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| posted on 9/9/09 at 10:38 PM |
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Eureka moment from paul there... your not going to run into town naked are you ?
quote:
Originally posted by Doofus
quote:
Originally posted by alistairolsen
They don't, one knows the underwater volume from the drawings and the draught marks and then using the density of the water in which shes lying
one can calculate the mass by Archimedes principle
So what you are saying is we should throw all the Pintos in the drink and measure how much the tide comes in....
Then we know how light they are
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