t16turbotone
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 09:40 AM |
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RANT!!
Woke up this morning to find a letter from the police stating that i done 34mph in a 30 zone £60 please. Apart from the total pathetic-ness of the 4
mph ime more than a little pissed off. I was out for a blat with Alex (aka omega) we were fully aware that the prick was waiting for us at the end of
the road because numerous on coming motorists were warning us by flashing there headlights etc etc. I went past with my speedo reading 30, alex will
confirm that. So after spending good money for electronic speedo and more good money to vosa to check my expensive speedo was reading correct, it all
turns to shit! Sorry rant over....
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blakep82
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 09:47 AM |
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hmm, i've noticed an increase in these roadside signs that flash 30mph when you go past them above 30mph indicated on the speedo, which means
below 30mph.
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ReMan
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 09:48 AM |
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Bummer, yes pathetic, you'd feel better if it was 20 over!
You say you spent money with VOSA getting it calibrated. Surely it would be worth a try, going back to VOSA for another calibration check and if found
good, could be worth challenging it, or the accuracy of the scamera van?
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Peter Cowley
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 09:51 AM |
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I thought the ACPO guidelines were 10% plus 2......you may just be offered the speed awareness course in place of the points......
The bad news they charge £80 for this........another £20 in the coffers for the pleasure of no points
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t16turbotone
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 10:01 AM |
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Ive NEVER heard of ANYONE who has successfully appealled against this kind of crap. Two months ago my workshop was broken into lost about 3K of
tooling, couple of weeks ago younger brother was mugged and beaten up , there will be no resolution to these crimes.......yet we still having so
called policemen dicking about on the sides of roads feeling like there doing a worthwhile job
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MikeR
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 10:09 AM |
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In theory if you're done for doing 34mph your speedo should be reading 37ish on a tin top. In toy cars are speedos are more likely to be
accurate therefore the difference between getting caught or not is slimmer...
ie do 37 in the tintop and your on the edge of getting caught. Do 33 in the kit car you're on the edge as your physically doing the same
speed.
Its unfortunate but I believe there is little you can do about it. they have evidence you've broken a law so they'll impose justice. The
issue is its a very easy law to impose compared to the robbery / mugging.
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adithorp
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 10:14 AM |
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Is he dicking about or is he catching someone breaking the law?
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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rf900rush
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 10:15 AM |
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I treat their pettiness the same.
If I can, I drive past at a silly slow speed to make my point and no chance of speeding.
But, if you want to play stupid, and drive your minimoto with no lid, no license,no everything else, then come round my way, it's appears to be
allowed.
Hopefully some day the police will be allowed back to policing and not tax collecting.
Their resources seem unproportional to the crime.
My rant over. 
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 10:19 AM |
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Is there not the issue of where the camera or lazer or whatever hits on a 7 type car.
Tintops are big and square fronted, if you hit the rollbar with the first beam and the front numberplate with the second, could that not mean you were
going quite a bit quicker.
Although it could just be one of those silly myths am sure I saw something like that on a program on TV.
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clairetoo
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 10:23 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
Is he dicking about or is he catching someone breaking the law?
I'd say he's dicking about............4 mph over some arbitrary limit is hardly a crime .
Its cuz I is blond , innit
Claire xx
Will weld for food......
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 10:25 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
In theory if you're done for doing 34mph your speedo should be reading 37ish on a tin top. In toy cars are speedos are more likely to be
accurate therefore the difference between getting caught or not is slimmer...
By law it can read anywhere from 34mph to 37.4mph. It's dangerous to assume all speedos read 10% out, many are quite a bit better than that...
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 10:26 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MkIndy7
Is there not the issue of where the camera or lazer or whatever hits on a 7 type car.
Tintops are big and square fronted, if you hit the rollbar with the first beam and the front numberplate with the second, could that not mean you were
going quite a bit quicker.
Although it could just be one of those silly myths am sure I saw something like that on a program on TV.
"Slip error" is a known and proven issue with some laser speed guns, but the authorities like to ignore it and hope it goes away.
[Edited on 3/10/09 by MikeRJ]
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 10:32 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MkIndy7
Is there not the issue of where the camera or lazer or whatever hits on a 7 type car.
Tintops are big and square fronted, if you hit the rollbar with the first beam and the front numberplate with the second, could that not mean you were
going quite a bit quicker.
Although it could just be one of those silly myths am sure I saw something like that on a program on TV.
No, the target is the number plate on the front, however proving that they werent aiming at that is impossible. This is one of the reasons i didnt
understand how they can catch motorcyclists from the front, as all front surfaces are angles, and the rider moves...
There was a programme on TV the other day, which said that PCSO's were operating roadside speed detection equipment, and although they cannot
stop people and ticket them, they can report you to the police and let them do the work.
I would ask for evidence before spending anything. Innocent until proven guilty (in theory).
The police round our way are fkin useless, and are more interested in tearing around with blue lights and swanning around than doing any proper police
work.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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02GF74
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 10:32 AM |
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annoying as it is I can't see how you can prove your speedo was accurate and the [police are in error... but hey, at least your engine has not
blown up!.
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omega0684
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 10:38 AM |
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mate i swear that the speedo was reading about 25 when we went past him because i double checked the speedo to make sure that you wern't
speeding!
that is absolute bo**ocks in my eyes, i'll be a witness in court if you want to take it to court, but i doubt my testimonial will be of any
good.
when you were at Vosa did they give you a read out for your speedo output?
you could always question the police on when the camera was last calibrated?
what about when we went out of the village and not coming into the village, can the police catch you for speeding if the car is travelling away from
the camera?
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expatkiwi
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 10:51 AM |
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The filth has probably got something against 7 owners. Maybe his ex wife saw the light and ran off with a 7 owner so she could get around with her top
down. That would be hilarious if it were true
I have decided to call my Westfeild "The Caterhammer" Hopefully it will
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Andi
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 10:58 AM |
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my Sat nav seems pretty accurate. It always reads a few mph slower than the kit or tin top.
Give it ago
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RichieHall
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 11:01 AM |
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PCSO's? I though it was an offence to impersonate a police officer?
Rust is lighter than Carbon Fibre!
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tomgregory2000
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 11:08 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RichieHall
PCSO's? I though it was an offence to impersonate a police officer?
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t16turbotone
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 11:13 AM |
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thanx for your comments people, just off to buy myself a track suit, heavy thick link gold chain, minimoto bike some big bad trainers and have some
legal fun.
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Staple balls
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 11:21 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RichieHall
PCSO's? I though it was an offence to impersonate a police officer?
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Danozeman
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 01:13 PM |
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If you were both together seems strange only one of you got a ticket when you were obviously both together.?
[Edited on 3/10/09 by Danozeman]
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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prawnabie
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 01:15 PM |
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They were both in the same car
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JonBowden
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 02:55 PM |
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how long ago was your speedo checked?
I think you should have reason to question this.
At least asking for the calibration info on their equipment
Jon
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austin man
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 03:36 PM |
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challenge it say that you are unsure who was driving at the time especially if there where 2 of you in the car and even more so if both can prove they
are insured to drive it. Tiff Nidell got away with 100mph plus on the motorway stating he didnt know if it was him or his wife driving. Youve had it
if they have a photo and it identifies you. At this point you will have to concede or challenge tje calibration of the equipment.
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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