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franky

posted on 13/11/09 at 10:54 AM Reply With Quote
Alfa 147

looking at getting one for my drive to work...

Anything in particular I should look for? anyone else got one? known problems etc?

Going to be a petrol one..... what sort of mpg do you get out of it with normal driving?

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Humbug

posted on 13/11/09 at 10:57 AM Reply With Quote
It's an Alfa...
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eznfrank

posted on 13/11/09 at 11:05 AM Reply With Quote
Which engine?

I've had both a 145 and 147 both 2.0 ts returning around 28mpg on the commute. Look for cambelt change every 36k miles. Some of the older service books say change every 72k and this was then altered twice IIRC. I fell foul of this as my book was an old one so I'd not done the belt on the 147 when it let go taking all 16 valves with it. Cost £500 ish to repair myself, garage wanted £2k!!

Other than that both had minor power steering problems, the 145 had a faulty pump and the 147 had corrosion on the pipes leading to a very slow leak.

Have to say I loved both of them and the 145 is on my short list of runarounds that I'm currently looking for.

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pewe

posted on 13/11/09 at 11:14 AM Reply With Quote
IIRC mookaloid on here has one but it's a diesel.
He's thinking of an extended warranty which given Alfa's reliability record is prob. not a bad idea.
However as that well-known orator and ars*h*le Clarkson says "you aren't a real petrolhead until you've owned an Alfa".
Note to self - add an 8C to the birthday list!
Cheers, Pewe

enzfrank - ^^ your £2k garage quote sounds cheap - mate with a GTA was rushed £4k when his cambelt let go 2K miles short of the original 72k recommended change.

[Edited on 13/11/09 by pewe]

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eznfrank

posted on 13/11/09 at 11:42 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pewe
IIRC mookaloid on here has one but it's a diesel.
He's thinking of an extended warranty which given Alfa's reliability record is prob. not a bad idea.
However as that well-known orator and ars*h*le Clarkson says "you aren't a real petrolhead until you've owned an Alfa".
Note to self - add an 8C to the birthday list!
Cheers, Pewe

enzfrank - ^^ your £2k garage quote sounds cheap - mate with a GTA was rushed £4k when his cambelt let go 2K miles short of the original 72k recommended change.

[Edited on 13/11/09 by pewe]


Yeah the £2k was a "starting point" from which I think they were going to work up from once they'd got the head off. The £500 I spent included all the tools plus a general service. I reckon I could have done it for about £300.

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HomersDouble

posted on 13/11/09 at 11:48 AM Reply With Quote
Have run my 156 2 litre sportwagon for 2 years now and love it! But as eznfrank says make sure it's belts have been done (inc. cam variators) by an Alfa agent or specialist. Also avoid anything with Selespeed.
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franky

posted on 13/11/09 at 11:49 AM Reply With Quote
I know its an alfa but the 147's tend to be reliable by all accounts, no worse than any other. Only looking to spend about 2k, so a 2002 ish one.. Ideally a 1.6ts lusso with leather.
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britishtrident

posted on 13/11/09 at 11:57 AM Reply With Quote
Really not worth the hassle ---
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Davegtst

posted on 13/11/09 at 12:03 PM Reply With Quote
I've got one and i love it. The selespeed's (tiptronic) are apparently a bit suspect but mine is fine. I looked at a few when i got mine. it's definatly worth hunting around for the right one as alot of them were in a very poor condition. The 2 litre in mine isn't the most economical 35/gallon on a run but the car is very comfortable and has loads of toys.
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franky

posted on 13/11/09 at 12:34 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Really not worth the hassle ---


Whats not?

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franky

posted on 13/11/09 at 12:36 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Davegtst
I've got one and i love it. The selespeed's (tiptronic) are apparently a bit suspect but mine is fine. I looked at a few when i got mine. it's definatly worth hunting around for the right one as alot of them were in a very poor condition. The 2 litre in mine isn't the most economical 35/gallon on a run but the car is very comfortable and has loads of toys.


So on a run it will do 35mpg? I don't want a selespeed although my friend had one for 120k with no issues.

Does the trip have a long term ave mpg on it? I only as I need it to ave 35mpg on my 80mile round trip to work. If the 2.0 will do it I can look at some others then too.

I'm only going to get one thats been looked after, and not owned by any chavy types!

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posted on 13/11/09 at 01:05 PM Reply With Quote
g/f got an alfa.

09 plate, 12k miles old .....

when she got it she had to return it to have the rear wash wipe sorted. The quote from the garage was "we had to enable it in the software" - irrespective of the problem says a lot for quality control.

Driving last weekend and cruise control stopped working. Pulled into services, stopped the engine, removed the key, put the key back, started the engine and it was fine.

Switch gear is in ATTROCIOUS places. I'm 6'3" and things like the electric window means i have to jam my elbow in my ribs.

Seating position is 'different'. I now understand the comments about italians having short legs.

Blooming nice car to drive tho

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zilspeed

posted on 13/11/09 at 01:08 PM Reply With Quote
Go for it......

I sold a 156 this morning.
It was certainly an enjoyable car to both be in and to drive.

Having said that, my reason for selling was that as well as not being that grunty, I could never get comfortable - and I don't mean the driving position. I'm talking about the feeling of trusting a car and relaxing.
I could never truly relax with the Alfa because I always got the feeling that it was going to let me down in some way.

It never happened, but I couldn't help feeling that it was going to...






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Davegtst

posted on 13/11/09 at 02:29 PM Reply With Quote
Yes the trip has an average mpg on it as well as instant mpg. Last time i went to gatwick (80 miles) it returned 35 mpg average.
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alfasudsprint

posted on 13/11/09 at 03:32 PM Reply With Quote
GTA was the fabled V6 , hence the higher heads costs.
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morcus

posted on 13/11/09 at 06:26 PM Reply With Quote
I know its just splitting hairs but selespeed isn't a type of tiptronic box, its an electrohydraulic manual box operated with a computor and its much better than a true tiptronic which is essentially an auto with an over ride function.

I've never driven a Selespeed car but I have a simillar type of box in my Panda and it drives alot better than a tiptronic because you still have a clutch (Just no pedal).

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Davegtst

posted on 13/11/09 at 08:22 PM Reply With Quote
Very true. It does drive nice but sometimes it can be a little jerky compared to a tiptronic auto and annoyingly it will change down the gears on it's own when really i would prefer full control. You can put it in city mode though which means you don't have to change gears yourself at all.
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franky

posted on 13/11/09 at 08:52 PM Reply With Quote
I can get this for 2k...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2002-ALFA-ROMEO-147-T-SPARK-LUSSO-RED_W0QQitemZ180431851496QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item2a02938fe8

I'd prefer one with leather though, with a baby on the way it would make sense as they'll clean up easier!

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morcus

posted on 13/11/09 at 08:57 PM Reply With Quote
When I swapped my Pug (With a normal auto) for the Panda I really felt the gear changes but now I don't so much and found out that lifting off (Like you do in a manaul) when you want to change speeds the whole lot up.
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Ninehigh

posted on 14/11/09 at 02:12 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pewe
However as that well-known orator and ars*h*le Clarkson says "you aren't a real petrolhead until you've owned an Alfa".
Note to self - add an 8C to the birthday list!
Cheers, Pewe

enzfrank - ^^ your £2k garage quote sounds cheap - mate with a GTA was rushed £4k when his cambelt let go 2K miles short of the original 72k recommended change


Why do you need to own an Alfa to be obsessed?

If my cambelt let go before the recommended change I'd be kicking off big time. It should last longer than they say it will!

quote:
Originally posted by MikeR

Seating position is 'different'. I now understand the comments about italians having short legs.


I might have to get one, seeing as it'll suit my short(ish!) legs






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