Bumble
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posted on 16/2/10 at 11:29 AM |
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Parking Ticket......Absolutely Furious!!!!!
Major Rant.......Got into work this morning and was given an invoice from the lease company that own's my company car for illegal parking on
20th Jan - my brithday! Parking ticket = £150 + Admin charge £25. Lease company has already paid this as it increases to £225 if not paid within 28
days. I rang the Car Park owners (Civil Enforcement Ltd) and asked where the ticket was that was issued to me - the reply...."we don't
issue tickets, we have photgraphic evidence from sophisticated CCTV of your car illegally parked and if you want a copy please send a cheque for
£10". This served to wind me up even further. I bought a ticket was my reply from the Pay and Display machine. I was then told it is
"not a pay and display car park but one which you have to telephone and pay via debit card". I told her there was Pay & Display
machine only 3 or 4 cars along from mine which I purchased a ticket from to which I was told that I had most likely crossed into the adjacent car
park and not noticed I was then given all the BullSh*t about Terms and Conditions etc. It was dark, poorly lit and pouring with rain. This was in
Milton Keynes. I have no option now but to pay up as the registered keeper of the car (lease company) have already paid and invoiced my company. I
am needless to say absolutely bloody furious at what is a blatant rip off. How can these charges be justified. This is made especially worse as it
would have paid half toward my Megasquirt from EFi.
I am now in a very bad mood.
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MikeRJ
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posted on 16/2/10 at 11:34 AM |
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Hmm, was this a private parking company or Council run? If the former then their contract is with the driver of the car, not the registered keeper.
Might be worth having a quick chat with a solicitor...
[Edited on 16/2/10 by MikeRJ]
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m8kwr
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posted on 16/2/10 at 11:38 AM |
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I keep getting letters about my car been parked illegally.
I could of paid them for photo proof of my car been parked there, but continue to ignore the letters, apparently people are coming round to collect
money, courts involved etc. It best not to even respond.... as most of the time they don't take it to court as its cost them money to do so,
and just pray on people paying up.
I did park my car there, but a late saturday afternoon, no other car around, I could not see the problem personally - but it was a private road!!!!
Its just a shame they got in touch with the lease company. I thought laws were been brought in to control these types of companies and the amount
they charge.... How come its always the motorist who has to pay out.... your make me want to RANT now lol....
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whitestu
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posted on 16/2/10 at 11:41 AM |
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If the lease company paid it without informing you then say thanks very much and leave it at that!
Any tickets I've had were sent to me by the lease company to settle.
Stu
[Edited on 16/2/10 by whitestu]
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Bumble
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posted on 16/2/10 at 11:43 AM |
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Private Company not Council run....if you Google them they come up all over the place as a scam outfit who have liquidated themselves several times
and then crop up as somthing else. My problem is that Arval (the lease company) have already paid up.
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FFTS
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posted on 16/2/10 at 11:45 AM |
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I got a ticket by cctv for being 12 mins over the 1 hour 20 mins allowed in a retail park in Preston. Same thing.. bullying letter, discount if £60
paid in 28 days, penalty of 120 if later,, bla bla. The company is called "Parking Eye".
I took the time to google like mad and came across a load of forums with advise and it all said the same. DONT PAY.. they have no legal right and will
not take you to court and true enough I couldnt find any post where anyone had been summonsed. They work on bullying and intimidation alone and its
very profitable even if 20% refuse to pay. Theres too much info to convey here but get googling and youll get some amazing advise. I took the advise
of NO CONTACT AT ALL. I got a letter with a photo of my car and more threats, then another from a so called debt collector although no debt was
established..
I ignored the lot and nothing else happened They dont have a leg to stand on and its easier to bank the money from those who they scare enough
rather than spend money on fighting someone who is prepared to stand up to them.
I appreciate that its a bit different if the leasing company were stupid enough to pay it.
Good luck.
Just a thought!! I would send any info you find that shows that the parking company have no right and cant enforce the tickets and that they took that
action without consulting you, effectivly commiting you to pay for something you didnt need to and had no intention of doing and that you would have
fought it in court if needed. They took it out of your hands and deprived you of any decision making and so they should pay.
[Edited on 16/2/10 by FFTS]
Chris.
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l0rd
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posted on 16/2/10 at 11:54 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by FFTS
I got a ticket by cctv for being 12 mins over the 1 hour 20 mins allowed in a retail park in Preston. Same thing.. bullying letter, discount if £60
paid in 28 days, penalty of 120 if later,, bla bla. The company is called "Parking Eye".
I took the time to google like mad and came across a load of forums with advise and it all said the same. DONT PAY.. they have no legal right and will
not take you to court and true enough I couldnt find any post where anyone had been summonsed. They work on bullying and intimidation alone and its
very profitable even if 20% refuse to pay. Theres too much info to convey here but get googling and youll get some amazing advise. I took the advise
of NO CONTACT AT ALL. I got a letter with a photo of my car and more threats, then another from a so called debt collector although no debt was
established..
I ignored the lot and nothing else happened They dont have a leg to stand on and its easier to bank the money from those who they scare enough
rather than spend money on fighting someone who is prepared to stand up to them.
I appreciate that its a bit different if the leasing company were stupid enough to pay it.
Good luck.
Just a thought!! I would send any info you find that shows that the parking company have no right and cant enforce the tickets and that they took that
action without consulting you, effectivly commiting you to pay for something you didnt need to and had no intention of doing and that you would have
fought it in court if needed. They took it out of your hands and deprived you of any decision making and so they should pay.
[Edited on 16/2/10 by FFTS]
+1
Since you were to pay the ticket, they should have informed you. You might wanted to pay the 225 pounds fine instead of the 175 because you are rich
and can afford it.
Also, check your contract with the company car.
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ReMan
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posted on 16/2/10 at 11:58 AM |
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I'm sure you'll find that if your employment contract terms etc is any good then you will be responsible so if you want to keep your
job........
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hughpinder
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posted on 16/2/10 at 11:59 AM |
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I got done for parking in a disabled spot just after xmas,also in the dark/rain. It was at the back of a supermarket, where you wouldn't expect
a disabled bay since they are usually at the end of the rows nearest the entrance. I had just passed a car at the end of a line as he pulled out. I
reversed in and went off to shop. When I came back I had a ticket. The only disabled sign was the one painted on the ground which isn't visible
when reversing in! When I phoned the council to complain that this wasn't the most visible of ways of marking the disabled bay, the girl
basically said "Its your fault. Loads of people try to get out of the parking fine in that spot by saying its not visible if you reverse in. You
should always check first".
At least mine was 'only' £60 I suppose
Hugh
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BenB
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posted on 16/2/10 at 12:09 PM |
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A bit cheeky of the lease company.... I'd just send a letter to the lease company saying that from now on if they ever receive a similar fine
you want them to ring you and you'll sort it out. And maybe offer to pay half of the existing one
Hell, if you want cheeky- I had my tintop parked on my street (though not outside my house). Someone reported it "abandoned" (presumably
the person whose house it was outside of) and Barnet council sent a letter saying I had 7 days to move it or they would crush it!! Eh?
One would assume they would have to ascertain it was abandoned. They got my address from the DVLA who presumably could have informed them it was taxed
and insured!!! Who would dump a car but keep it taxed and insured???
Worringly because my post was on divertion (recent house move) I didn't get it until after 7 days but they failed to live up to their threats!
Probably just more bluff and bluster...
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Dan.
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posted on 16/2/10 at 12:38 PM |
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quote:
Hell, if you want cheeky- I had my tintop parked on my street (though not outside my house). Someone reported it "abandoned" (presumably
the person whose house it was outside of) and Barnet council sent a letter saying I had 7 days to move it or they would crush it!! Eh?
One would assume they would have to ascertain it was abandoned. They got my address from the DVLA who presumably could have informed them it was taxed
and insured!!! Who would dump a car but keep it taxed and insured???
Worringly because my post was on divertion (recent house move) I didn't get it until after 7 days but they failed to live up to their threats!
Probably just more bluff and bluster...
Had the same thing happen to me whilst I was away with work... the car was towed and they wanted £180 iirc to get it back... I was not amused! It was
fully taxed, insured & MOT'd.
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mad4x4
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posted on 16/2/10 at 12:51 PM |
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quote:
Not pay and Display but one which you have to telephone and pay via debit card.....
WTF - I would be doing that and would;t be parking there......
WHat if you don;t have a telephone or prefer to use Cash......
[Edited on 16/202/10 by mad4x4]
Scot's do it better in Kilts.
MK INDY's Don't Self Centre Regardless of MK Setting !
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LoMoss
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posted on 16/2/10 at 01:04 PM |
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I would check that the parking ticket is not an invoice. If it is there is a contract in place and you have made an arrangement then you would have to
pay. In this instance there would be no agreement and the invoice is unenforceable.
Company issue invoices hoping you will pay. You have to write and ask if it is an invoice and on what legal grounds it was issued.
HTH
More here
Moss
[Edited on 16/2/10 by LoMoss]
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A1
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posted on 16/2/10 at 01:08 PM |
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fight it, theyll give in. dont go straight to court, use it as a final option, keep notes of all communication between you and them.
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iank
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posted on 16/2/10 at 01:41 PM |
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If the lease company have paid it then it's too late. You will have signed an agreement with the leasing company to pay all parking/speeding
tickets and since they have paid up you owe them the money.
You could sue the originators of the ticket for your money back, but I doubt they'd ever pay.
--
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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BenB
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posted on 16/2/10 at 02:05 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Dan.
quote:
Hell, if you want cheeky- I had my tintop parked on my street (though not outside my house). Someone reported it "abandoned" (presumably
the person whose house it was outside of) and Barnet council sent a letter saying I had 7 days to move it or they would crush it!! Eh?
One would assume they would have to ascertain it was abandoned. They got my address from the DVLA who presumably could have informed them it was taxed
and insured!!! Who would dump a car but keep it taxed and insured???
Worringly because my post was on divertion (recent house move) I didn't get it until after 7 days but they failed to live up to their threats!
Probably just more bluff and bluster...
Had the same thing happen to me whilst I was away with work... the car was towed and they wanted £180 iirc to get it back... I was not amused! It was
fully taxed, insured & MOT'd.
what happened? Did you have to cough up?
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kj
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posted on 16/2/10 at 03:52 PM |
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Just a quick one if anyone is in cumbria be on the look out for nasty parking attendants.
One of the guys we work with was over there looking at some flood damaged houses and the parking attendant is going around ticketing most of the sub
contractors vehicles how are their to help get them back on their feet how sh%t is that?
[Edited on 16/2/10 by kj]
[Edited on 16/2/10 by kj]
Think about it, think about it again and then do it.
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andyharding
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posted on 16/2/10 at 04:13 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by iank
If the lease company have paid it then it's too late. You will have signed an agreement with the leasing company to pay all parking/speeding
tickets and since they have paid up you owe them the money.
There is most likely a clause in the lease contract that they will pay speeding / parking FINES. A private parking company issue an INVOICE not a FINE
and as such their clause does not apply and the lease company will be left out of pocket for their silly mistake.
Are you a Mac user or a retard?
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FFTS
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posted on 16/2/10 at 05:58 PM |
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Ahha.. found the link to the great advice I found when the criminals tried to scare me out of my hard earned wonga.
parking ticket linky
Chris.
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RichardK
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posted on 16/2/10 at 07:55 PM |
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Strange, I can't get Arval to pay for a decent set of tyres never mind parking tickets! Always end up with the cheapest crap they can get to
fit!!
Rich
Gallery updated 11/01/2011
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Ninehigh
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posted on 17/2/10 at 09:10 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Bumble
Private Company not Council run....if you Google them they come up all over the place as a scam outfit who have liquidated themselves several times
and then crop up as somthing else. My problem is that Arval (the lease company) have already paid up.
Yeah better read through that contract completely and get the parking ticket they were sent too... Mind you if they're anything like the people
I'm dealing with you could have been in prison before they send it out!
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