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cd.thomson

posted on 27/3/10 at 08:41 AM Reply With Quote
bike commited suicide!



Need to buy a new one this weekend but I'm on the bread line. Trying to decide between a cheap bike from a specialist (Claud Butler) or a cheap bike from halfords (Carrera).

Claud Butler Courier Sport (Singlespeed fixed gear)


Claud Butler Criterium


Carrera Virtuoso


All are £299 with the virtuoso actually scoring higher on the bike radar review than the criterium.

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Myke 2463

posted on 27/3/10 at 09:07 AM Reply With Quote
Halfords have 50% off some bikes this weekend.
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Paul TigerB6

posted on 27/3/10 at 09:08 AM Reply With Quote
not surprised it broke - that chain is a disgrace. They need lubricating eventually you know!!

Singlespeed should be fine if you only ride on the flat.

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cd.thomson

posted on 27/3/10 at 09:10 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Paul TigerB6
not surprised it broke - that chain is a disgrace. They need lubricating eventually you know!!

Singlespeed should be fine if you only ride on the flat.


lol yes, although thats not why it broke.

the chain needed replacing not lubricating! I'd only had this bike a little over a month and came in a shocking state... hence why wanting to fork out for something better





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Steve Hignett

posted on 27/3/10 at 09:12 AM Reply With Quote
Do you have a Decathlon store near you?

They often have good offers on InStore

http://www.decathlon.co.uk/EN/sport-1-54-57-69567468/






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adithorp

posted on 27/3/10 at 09:27 AM Reply With Quote
Steve is right, Decatlon have some good deals. Thier huge buying power gets them the best prices. EvansCycles also have some decent priced deals and they tend to be better quality products than Halfords.
You are aware that the "singlespeed" is fixed gear, ie. no freewheel, aren't you?

Get the best you can afford. £299 bikes are toys but a £599 bike for £299 is a lot better. Cheap quality will just make life hard. If you're thinking of using it year round look for something you can get mudgaurds on; It'll make it a LOT more usable for our weather.





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AdamR

posted on 27/3/10 at 09:56 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by adithorp
You are aware that the "singlespeed" is fixed gear, ie. no freewheel, aren't you?



Not necessarily. Most have a "flip flop" arrangement where you can switch between fixed and freewheel.

I'm also in the market for a cheapish road bike btw, so interested in replies.

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Peteff

posted on 27/3/10 at 10:05 AM Reply With Quote
It's only the chain and dérailleur, about £20 would see it fixed then get a tin of paint and oil it in future.





yours, Pete

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adithorp

posted on 27/3/10 at 10:48 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by AdamR
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
You are aware that the "singlespeed" is fixed gear, ie. no freewheel, aren't you?



Not necessarily. Most have a "flip flop" arrangement where you can switch between fixed and freewheel.

I'm also in the market for a cheapish road bike btw, so interested in replies.


That one does indeed have both free and fixed sprokets. Having looked at a lot (i love fixed wheel) I'd say "most" is pushing it a bit.

adrian





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StrikerChris

posted on 27/3/10 at 11:35 AM Reply With Quote
you know anyone with a cycle to work initiative thingy?somehow it fiddles your tax and saves some pennies?and you dont actually have to bother cycling to work!
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indykid

posted on 27/3/10 at 11:39 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by StrikerChris
you know anyone with a cycle to work initiative thingy?somehow it fiddles your tax and saves some pennies?and you dont actually have to bother cycling to work!

but they'd have to pay for your bike in deductions out of their wage......makes for a cheap bike but i can't think of many of my friends who'd consider it
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cd.thomson

posted on 27/3/10 at 11:45 AM Reply With Quote
after looking around this morning I have just purchased a carrera virtuoso from halfords.

My local claud butler store didn't have either of the bikes in stock and the other cycling shop I visited laughed in my face when I asked for a sub-£500 road bike. Also 12 miles a day on fixed wheel single speed could be a bit of trial.

Picking it up later

Cycle to work is a good scheme if you have a permanent job, but I'm leaving for uni in september

[Edited on 27/3/10 by cd.thomson]





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adithorp

posted on 27/3/10 at 12:09 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
after looking around this morning I have just purchased a carrera virtuoso from halfords.

My local claud butler store didn't have either of the bikes in stock and the other cycling shop I visited laughed in my face when I asked for a sub-£500 road bike. Also 12 miles a day on fixed wheel single speed could be a bit of trial.

Picking it up later

Cycle to work is a good scheme if you have a permanent job, but I'm leaving for uni in september

[Edited on 27/3/10 by cd.thomson]


12 miles a day sound perfect for fixed. It's only when you do a 4 hour round trip that it gets to you! An advantage of fixed is that should anybody knick it they tend to fall off the first time they try to slow down.





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MikeRJ

posted on 27/3/10 at 01:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
after looking around this morning I have just purchased a carrera virtuoso from halfords.


I think you could have done a lot worse to be honest, my brother reckons these are pretty decent bikes.

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iDENTITi

posted on 27/3/10 at 01:15 PM Reply With Quote
I'll add my comment, after the fact.
I used to be a bike mechanic for halfrauds, I probably wouldn't buy a bike they'd built..
Long story short, check every bolt possible and locktight the crank bolts! (they fall out)

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Staple balls

posted on 27/3/10 at 01:52 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iDENTITi
I'll add my comment, after the fact.
I used to be a bike mechanic for halfrauds, I probably wouldn't buy a bike they'd built..
Long story short, check every bolt possible and locktight the crank bolts! (they fall out)


Also worth checking they're tight every time you ride for a few weeks, as the cranks tend to bed in a bit when they're new (assuming square taper ones)






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iDENTITi

posted on 27/3/10 at 02:43 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Staple balls
quote:
Originally posted by iDENTITi
I'll add my comment, after the fact.
I used to be a bike mechanic for halfrauds, I probably wouldn't buy a bike they'd built..
Long story short, check every bolt possible and locktight the crank bolts! (they fall out)


Also worth checking they're tight every time you ride for a few weeks, as the cranks tend to bed in a bit when they're new (assuming square taper ones)


Indeed it is.. I just don't trust the spanner monkeys they employ nor the managers attitude towards safety. I was removed from working on bikes because I actually spent time doing it properly, and loctiting everything up.

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Staple balls

posted on 27/3/10 at 02:45 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iDENTITi
Indeed it is.. I just don't trust the spanner monkeys they employ nor the managers attitude towards safety. I was removed from working on bikes because I actually spent time doing it properly, and loctiting everything up.


I'm not surprised, I've seen far too many halfords bikes that've needed putting back together after 2 weeks.






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02GF74

posted on 27/3/10 at 04:33 PM Reply With Quote
nice one; that looks pretty decent.






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iDENTITi

posted on 27/3/10 at 05:33 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Staple balls

I'm not surprised, I've seen far too many halfords bikes that've needed putting back together after 2 weeks.


I've had to put far too many of those bikes back together... And heard a fair few horror stories too. Ones involving people in hospital...

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morcus

posted on 27/3/10 at 09:12 PM Reply With Quote
I thought a fixed gear bike was one with just one speed and one without a free wheel was a fixed wheel bike?

I've got friends with bikes that can't free wheel and they all say it does great stuff for your muscles and you get more control with slowing it down.





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AdamR

posted on 30/3/10 at 06:31 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by morcus
I thought a fixed gear bike was one with just one speed and one without a free wheel was a fixed wheel bike?

I've got friends with bikes that can't free wheel and they all say it does great stuff for your muscles and you get more control with slowing it down.



Two terms tend to be used:
Single-speed = has a single gear (obviously)
Fixed-wheel/fixie = no freewheel

A lot of single-speed/fixie bikes support both modes, as mentioned above.

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adithorp

posted on 30/3/10 at 10:56 PM Reply With Quote
Please, please, please... don't say fixie. It's an Americanism. It deserves the same treatment as color, climate and a whole host of other abominations.
I've ridden fixed alongside the best riders in the world and they'd all say, a bike with a fixed single gear is's a FIXED, not a fixie!

adrian





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