ben lambert
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| posted on 1/4/10 at 05:34 AM |
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ford cougar v6 as a donor?
Hi guys,
I'm getting started on either a Mk or GTR locost (haven't decided on that bit yet) and have just been offered a ford cougar v6 for next to
nothing, I'd love to take it and use it as a donor. is this poss? even if i can just use the engine it would be worth it. I'm not sure yet
wether its the 2.0 16v or the 2.5 24v, I'll find that out today.
Any info that people have for me on this would be fantastic.
My wife.... She say YES!!! so i shall create
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ben lambert
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| posted on 1/4/10 at 06:47 AM |
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Its the 2.5 24v V6.
My wife.... She say YES!!! so i shall create
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turbodisplay
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| posted on 1/4/10 at 06:49 AM |
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V6 with mods is used in noble cars so quite a good engine!
You can use any non standard car for donors, just takes a bit longer to modify parts.
Darren
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ben lambert
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| posted on 1/4/10 at 06:58 AM |
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Ooo.... thanks for that... may have to take it then, I've got that compulsive buy feeling. do you know if the brakes, gear box etc can be used?
or anyother car that could mate up to it? can you tell i'm a first timer? (reluctant to jump in and do it when your not 100% sure) but i guess
thats the learning curve.
My wife.... She say YES!!! so i shall create
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iank
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| posted on 1/4/10 at 07:00 AM |
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The problem you've got is mating it to a suitable RWD gearbox. Engine is good for 200bhp just by removing the cats.
razman used one for his aeon middy.
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RIE
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| posted on 1/4/10 at 07:22 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ben lambert
I'm not sure yet wether its the 2.0 16v or the 2.5 24v, I'll find that out today.
quote:
Its the 2.5 24v V6.
Was gonna say, I don't think you can get a 16v V6
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turbodisplay
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| posted on 1/4/10 at 08:45 AM |
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If i remember correclty that engine has a different bell housing pattern to standard ford. I think it may be a jag and /or mazda gearbox that will
work with small mods. Think there was a thread about this.
(just something i seem to recall - dont trust me!)
Darren
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trogdor
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| posted on 1/4/10 at 08:57 AM |
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It will be difficult to mate to a RWD gearbox, I had one of these engines going into my project at one point, but I was going to mate it to a Audi
Transaxle with an adapter plate.
It you are doing a Mid engined car then you can use the gearbox etc but if you don't then you will need to find a suitable gearbox, or get one
to fit!
As far as I know I think it was a triumph gearbox that fitted? I really can't remember sorry! But clairetoo has fitted on of these engines to
her fury.
But one from a Probe I think, I assume these engines are the same?
Hope that helps
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l0rd
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| posted on 1/4/10 at 09:15 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by trogdor
It will be difficult to mate to a RWD gearbox, I had one of these engines going into my project at one point, but I was going to mate it to a Audi
Transaxle with an adapter plate.
It you are doing a Mid engined car then you can use the gearbox etc but if you don't then you will need to find a suitable gearbox, or get one
to fit!
As far as I know I think it was a triumph gearbox that fitted? I really can't remember sorry! But clairetoo has fitted on of these engines to
her fury.
But one from a Probe I think, I assume these engines are the same?
Hope that helps
And she uses an MX5 box with an adaptor plate if I am not mistaken.
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blakep82
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| posted on 1/4/10 at 11:53 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RIE
quote:
Originally posted by ben lambert
I'm not sure yet wether its the 2.0 16v or the 2.5 24v, I'll find that out today.
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Its the 2.5 24v V6.
Was gonna say, I don't think you can get a 16v V6
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Liam
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| posted on 1/4/10 at 12:09 PM |
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I think two different engines are being confused here. Clairetoo used the mazda KL V6 which was only found in the ford probe (other than mazdas of
course). That would be the one that might take the MX5 box. The cougar uses the duratec 25 (also has a mazda name... AJ?) as found in mondeo and
various other fords/mazdas/jags. This engine would fit the Jag S-type box for RWD.
Liam
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ben lambert
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| posted on 1/4/10 at 04:48 PM |
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yeah there was a 2.0 used in the cougar aswell, by the sound of it, it wasnt a V6. My mistake, this is a learning exercise for me, feet in at the deep
end...
s-type.. nice one :-)
What about the back diff? would that have to be from a jjaaargg to?
My wife.... She say YES!!! so i shall create
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major
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 05:04 PM |
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The cougar v6 is actually a ford Duratec 25 V6 (Liam is correct) It only mates with a getrag 221 (Lincoln LS and a Jag S-type 3.0L) The bellhouse
pattern of the getrag 221 is similar to a Duratec 2.5L but no exactly the same. You also need a sump from a s-type or a dry-sump.
If you go for a Mk indy, you need to modify the s-type sump and get a bigger air scoop om the bonnet. The one supplied by Mk is not big enough. Your
upper intake manifold hits the bonnet.
Take a look at the pic's in my archive.
[Edited on 5/4/10 by major]
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Angel Acevedo
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| posted on 8/4/10 at 05:06 AM |
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US Cougar
I don´t know the specs of the UK cougar, but US cougars are good donors.
In the US (And Mexico) you could use engine, trans, front uprights and complete rear end (excluding shocks and springs
HTH
Beware of what you wish.. for it may come true....
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Brommers
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| posted on 14/4/10 at 08:31 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by major
The cougar v6 is actually a ford Duratec 25 V6 (Liam is correct) It only mates with a getrag 221 (Lincoln LS and a Jag S-type 3.0L) The bellhouse
pattern of the getrag 221 is similar to a Duratec 2.5L but no exactly the same. You also need a sump from a s-type or a dry-sump.
[Edited on 5/4/10 by major]
Or as an alternative to the Getrag box on the Duratec 25/30/35, you could use a Morgan bellhousing which has a standard Ford bolt pattern. Morgan use
it with the Mitchell Cotts MCT75 gearbox (i.e. an MT75 without the internal bellhousing).
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major
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| posted on 16/4/10 at 04:38 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Brommers
quote:
Originally posted by major
The cougar v6 is actually a ford Duratec 25 V6 (Liam is correct) It only mates with a getrag 221 (Lincoln LS and a Jag S-type 3.0L) The bellhouse
pattern of the getrag 221 is similar to a Duratec 2.5L but no exactly the same. You also need a sump from a s-type or a dry-sump.
[Edited on 5/4/10 by major]
Or as an alternative to the Getrag box on the Duratec 25/30/35, you could use a Morgan bellhousing which has a standard Ford bolt pattern. Morgan use
it with the Mitchell Cotts MCT75 gearbox (i.e. an MT75 without the internal bellhousing).
Yep, and with better gearing ratio's.
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