zilspeed
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 07:10 PM |
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I need an M3
Not one of those nancy boy 6 cylinder jobs, a proper S14 engined E30.
Today I've been driving an E36 318is, which clearly isn't an E30 M3 and the M42 engine has sod all to do with the S14, but it still has that
hard edged rev happy nature that I still remember from our old 2002 tii, it's very similar in nature.
Based on my usual flawed logic, I can only assume that if an M42 is great (which it is) then an S14 must be fan bleeding tastic.
The M42 has way less torque than the oily HDi engine in my Zilbus, but OMG, it's like comparing a surgeon's scalpel with a blunt axe.
They'll both do the job, but one does it with much more panache and style.
For the first time in a while, I found myself choosing the longer twistier road and slowing down and changing down, just so I could gun it back up
through the gears again. That has to be a good thing.
Then there's the steering.
What makes it worse is that a good friend has a 2.5 M3, which unfortunately never sees the light of day due to other commitments.
Here's the car I was driving today.
Image deleted by owner
And yes, my head was full of images like this as I was giving it beans along the backroad today.
Image deleted by owner
And here's the object of my desire.
If I only had a spare 20 odd large lying around...
It has to be seen to be believed.
[Edited on 17/5/10 by zilspeed]
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blakep82
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 07:31 PM |
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of course i agree 100%, there no doubt a e30 m3 would be awesome, but you do realise your reasoning makes no sense whatsoever 
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zilspeed
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 07:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
of course i agree 100%, there no doubt a e30 m3 would be awesome, but you do realise your reasoning makes no sense whatsoever
Hasn't stopped me before.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 07:40 PM |
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an E30 M3 is one of a very small number of BMW's I like 
a guy that works a couple of units up from me has one - hardly ever see it out and about though, it must spend most of its life in the garage 
[Edited on 17/5/2010 by mcerd1]
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andyw7de
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 07:42 PM |
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Your worse than me
and thats going some
Finish the one youve got first 
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blakep82
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 07:48 PM |
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you'e the same as me, really want a skyline, went to knockhill yesterday to see them, with the slight hope it might put me off a little to save
it from ruining me  it had the complete opposite effect i REALLY want one now.
 
never realised how big they were! :O
this toyota soarer was awesome too. looked so wrong, but was so right
i still like how you want a car, based on never driving it, but having a car you had years ago, and one you drove today
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zilspeed
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 08:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
i still like how you want a car, based on never driving it, but having a car you had years ago, and one you drove today
Oh, I won't be having one.
I do want one, but it simply won't happen and that's a fact.
Still as keen as ever on the Sylva.
With it being so low geared, it will suit my completely mediocre talents down to a tee.
The fact that it's worth hee haw also kinda suits me right now too.
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Stott
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 08:23 PM |
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I thought that red m3 in the pic above went on ebay for something like £12-13K, was a bit track car/bit road car, parked outside someones cottage
thing in the pics.
Totally agree that the E30 m3 is great, don't agree that the m42 is though, I co-drive in an e30 with a 150bhp m42 that's geared for
110mph so it's quite nippy but a std one in an e30 is a bit......... and in an e36!!!!!!! 
I remember test driving an e36 323 last year, snore, talk about slow, now the e30 chromie 325 high comp that I got in to drive back home, that was
nice!
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Oliver Jetson
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 08:25 PM |
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I used to have an E30 M3 a couple of years ago, but I ran out of talent in the wet and ripped the sump off on a curb and went backwards in to a pole
One less in the world now 
They occasionally pop up for under £10k but be careful. Look for good service history, and buying one with an engine rebuild recently done is the best
option. The timing chain will need doing at about 100k to 150k miles, this isn't a cheap or easy job to do (you may as well rebuild the engine
at the same time)
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zilspeed
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 08:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Stott
I thought that red m3 in the pic above went on ebay for something like £12-13K, was a bit track car/bit road car, parked outside someones cottage
thing in the pics.
Definitely a different car.
The current owners built the car from a bare shell with a BMW Motorsport cage and fitted all of the good stuff.
We've spoken about value on a few occasions and I know that 13K wouldn't even begin to loook at it. That's sort of why I'll
never have one
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dlatch
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 08:55 PM |
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find a 320 is
half E30 m3 money but the same engine
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Stott
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 09:03 PM |
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but 50bhp down on a 325 and the same weight.....................
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hicost blade
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 09:04 PM |
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1652012.htm
I think the 3.0 m3 engine is wonderful 
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Stott
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 09:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
quote:
Originally posted by Stott
I thought that red m3 in the pic above went on ebay for something like £12-13K, was a bit track car/bit road car, parked outside someones cottage
thing in the pics.
Definitely a different car.
The current owners built the car from a bare shell with a BMW Motorsport cage and fitted all of the good stuff.
We've spoken about value on a few occasions and I know that 13K wouldn't even begin to loook at it. That's sort of why I'll
never have one
Looks like the same car to me, with that shorty filter on and that cage, either that or it's twin was on ebay repeatedly last year, relisted due
to timewaster/owner wanting loads of money for it/etc, thought it went in the end for £13k ish reserve met, that was bare shell built, I'm 99%
positive it's that car and I've seen those very pics before.
Anywho, there are plenty of nice ones about for about that money! std granted, just do it!, remember it's easier to ask for forgiveness than
permission..................
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ashg
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 09:25 PM |
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I had an E30 325 went like a stink rocket, still think it is one of the best looking bmw's by a long shot
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
Haynes Roadster (Finished)
Exocet (Finished & Sold)
New Project (Started)
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Cousin Cleotis
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 09:47 PM |
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Ive driven 2 BMW's ive liked one was a 1988 316, which belonged to a customer at a garage i was working at, it was scrapped by the owner because
of head gasket failure, despite me saying i would have it when he decided to get rid.
The second was a 1994 M3 straight 6, very, very good, one of the last proper cars BMW made, no impossible to turn off traction control, great
steering, excellent feedback from the car, fast enough, just.
Paul
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 11:01 PM |
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never understood the E30 M3 thing. Personally to me its not worth starting with a genuine one and Im not a logbook snob so Id start with a cheap shell
and do my own thing. Ive seen cossie engined ones, LS2 engined E30s, nissan 1.8 turbo E30s.........
My Build Thread
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bimbleuk
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| posted on 18/5/10 at 08:01 AM |
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I had an E36 318is as a company car for a while and I thought it was good for a bit of A road blasting and still returned good figures when
commuting.
I've bought an RX7 but the company who supplied my LS1 V8 mounting kit now do the same for E36 BMWs. If I had know I may well have held on for
it. Nice reliable 350BHP as standard with off the shelf bolts on upgrades for the future.
[Edited on 18-5-10 by bimbleuk]
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phelpsa
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| posted on 18/5/10 at 09:36 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Stott
I remember test driving an e36 323 last year, snore, talk about slow, now the e30 chromie 325 high comp that I got in to drive back home, that was
nice!
My mum had a 323i new in 1997, and my dad reckoned it showed every sign of being a performance car, but it just lacked performance. He prefered his
V6 mondeo which showed every sign of being a dull motorway muncher but was actually surprisingly sprightly
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mcerd1
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| posted on 18/5/10 at 09:48 AM |
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my mates got a e21 323i
its road legal, but really needs a fair bit of work done
4 cly e21 (e.g. 316) with an engine & manual box of your choice and some better brakes etc - I recon that could be a properly good car
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vtecmike
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| posted on 18/5/10 at 07:05 PM |
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e21 323i , now thats a cool car! ive got 1 waiting for a 2.8 engine transplant!
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 19/5/10 at 12:37 AM |
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1679894.htm
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bimbleuk
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| posted on 19/5/10 at 07:38 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1679894.htm
I'd still rather fit a more reliable lump myself and get another 100 BHP and 100 lbs ft on top.
Just buy a rolling chassis, V8 from a Monaro and use the kit pictured in the link below. I bought the kit for an RX7 and it was a simple bolt in job
for the major mechanicals.
Samberg Rod & Custom - E38 V8 conversion kit.
I wouldn't describe the conversion as Locost though. Unless you compare the relative performance to more exoctic cars!
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