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scootz

posted on 2/9/10 at 06:27 PM Reply With Quote
Rivets???

Securing ali sheet to mild steel chassis... do I use ali rivets or stainless ones? Does it matter?

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RazMan

posted on 2/9/10 at 06:29 PM Reply With Quote
I would always go for stainless as they are much stronger.





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tomgregory2000

posted on 2/9/10 at 06:36 PM Reply With Quote
but if you have lots to do and only by hand go for the alloy ones
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RichardK

posted on 2/9/10 at 06:56 PM Reply With Quote
Cant see it mattering mate although would recommend roughing up the area thats next to the tube and running a bit of silkaflex down the length, not only adds strength but can stop vibration too between the panels.

Hope I'm not teaching you to suck eggs and all that!!

You stripped it already then

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scootz

posted on 2/9/10 at 07:02 PM Reply With Quote
Noooooo.... it will not be stripped (honest!).

I'm just doing a few bits and bobs to get it through it's MOT!

Thanks for the replies!





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tomgregory2000

posted on 2/9/10 at 07:13 PM Reply With Quote
ps if you can get MONEL rivets they would be best as the do not react with anything but they do cost more
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scootz

posted on 2/9/10 at 07:24 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers Tom!





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mookaloid

posted on 2/9/10 at 10:07 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by RichardK


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g.gilo

posted on 2/9/10 at 10:26 PM Reply With Quote
rivets

if you use an alloy rivet in alloy sheet and steel tube and the joint gets wet it will set up an eltrolosis reaction, this will eat the alloy away in time? you need a chemical barrier eg sickaflex, silicon or a proper barrier paste.
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02GF74

posted on 3/9/10 at 08:12 AM Reply With Quote
^^^^ there as been a lot of discussion of this - galvanic corrosion - on land rover forums, not surprisingly since most of the dbody work is alluminium alloy.

consensus was stainless steel rivets react worse with aluminium alloy (Birmabright) ... but we are talking 40 years or so.

For a kit car that sees a lot less mileage and nicer dryer conditions, I wouldn't worry and just use aluminium, unless you plan driving it in the sea regularly.






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DaveFJ

posted on 3/9/10 at 08:32 AM Reply With Quote
There has been a lot of discussion on this... search is your friend!

To summarise though... the best result is to use 'proper' structural monobolt type ally rivets... and always use jointing compound on every rivet. also make sure you dont make the holes to big... if you have 4.8mm rivets then you use a 4.8mm drill not 5mm!!

monobolt rivets are not cheap but they are really worth the effort. they are used to hold helicopters together so that says volumes...

Personally i prefer Huck MagnaLok type rivets becasue they can be worked with a standard type rivet gun.







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Angel Acevedo

posted on 3/9/10 at 03:04 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Securing ali sheet to mild steel chassis... do I use ali rivets or stainless ones? Does it matter?

Ta muchly!


What do you want?
Cheapest? Use ali.
Ultimate stregth? Use Stainless.

Being a Locost forum, I´d advise Ali.





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