vyperstrype
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| posted on 3/2/11 at 11:38 AM |
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Tilting Car Ramps
Hi, has anybody used or purchased one of the Tilt type Ramps supplied by CJ Motors at Heywood Manchester.
I am thinking of buying one of these, and was wondering if they are strong enough for everyday mechanics as well as working on the Indy.
These sell for about £450.00, and i would like to know if they are value for money.
By the way, i forgot to mention they are the type that use an electric drill for operation.
Cheers Eric.
Where there's a will, there's a death!!
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zetec
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| posted on 3/2/11 at 12:59 PM |
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I'm looking round for some new ramps, nice as they are seems a lot of money. I just used normal drive on ramps, £30-£40, or 2 axle stands with a
piece of 4x2 between as there's very little weight an easy to lift with a decent trolley jack.
" I only registered to look at the pictures, now I'm stuck with this username for the rest of my life!"
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loggyboy
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| posted on 3/2/11 at 01:14 PM |
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Are you talking about chasis tilters?
http://www.cjautos.org.uk/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/cjautos?opendocument&part=2
If so they are intended for intensive bodywork/resorations and they usually bolt to the chassis (bumber brackets or other strong point on the chassis)
to allow you to rotate the whole car.
Not really something to be used for everyday repairs.
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jabs
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| posted on 3/2/11 at 01:45 PM |
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think he means this http://www.cjautos.site90.net/mini.html
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bitsilly
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| posted on 3/2/11 at 02:02 PM |
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I would be very careful of them.
It isn't good practice to rely just on one jack before getting underneath a raised car, but what I would be most careful of is making sure those
two pads cannot slip in any way.
If the car is tilted and you are struggling torquing a stiff one then something should be locking the car in place, not just the engine braking or
handbrake (working on the tyres in contact with ground).
A whole other argument is what stops the car from see-sawing.
It would be prudent to have something as back up.
I wouldn't let my kids work on a car held up like in those pictures.
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bitsilly
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| posted on 3/2/11 at 02:09 PM |
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Just had another look at them.
AFAICS there is no cross member working diagonally, to lock the rectangles in place. It looks like very little except the welded joints stop the frame
from collapsing sideways. ie If someone pushed the car from the side there is little to resist it collapsing sidewards.
I would have added a tringulating beam for strength.
Has anyone ever seen one in a commercial garage before?
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hobbsy
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| posted on 3/2/11 at 02:10 PM |
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If I had the head room in my garage I'd consider one....
There are also some new two post lifts going for around double (maybe 3x) the cost on eBay but can't comment on the quality.
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hobbsy
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| posted on 4/2/11 at 06:44 PM |
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These are the 2 post lifts I was talking about:
SUPERB BRAND NEW RAMP 2 POST LIFT ELECTRO-HYDRAULIC on eBay (end time 19-Feb-11 22:35:26 GMT)
Haven't seen on in the flesh but seem reasonable value.
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scudderfish
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| posted on 4/2/11 at 07:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bitsilly
I would be very careful of them.
It isn't good practice to rely just on one jack before getting underneath a raised car, but what I would be most careful of is making sure those
two pads cannot slip in any way.
If the car is tilted and you are struggling torquing a stiff one then something should be locking the car in place, not just the engine braking or
handbrake (working on the tyres in contact with ground).
A whole other argument is what stops the car from see-sawing.
It would be prudent to have something as back up.
I wouldn't let my kids work on a car held up like in those pictures.
Never rely on a hydraulic jack as fluid loss is catastrophic. These things move via a worm drive, not hydraulics so they are fixed when they are up.
The tilting is controlled by a steel pin a la axle stands. The area of the pads are huge, so the friction of a car sat on them is very high.
I'm normally paranoid about working under my car with axle stands, but I'll happily sit under mine when it's up on my tilting stand.
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jacko
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| posted on 4/2/11 at 07:27 PM |
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There is a firm in Hull that sell's all kind of ramps ' lifts etc very cheep
sorry i cant remember there name
maybe a google search may bring it up
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:{THC}:YosamiteSam
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| posted on 6/2/11 at 05:44 PM |
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best home ramp / lift i have seen is from
strongman tools
saw their lifter at the shows about - had a show offer of just over £1000 without its about £1600
not cheap but man they are good - if they are having an offer one day im gonna get me one
they do the similar smaller tilt lift too called easylift
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