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Author: Subject: Anyone know anything about cracks in bricks? With pics!
franky

posted on 12/10/11 at 08:44 PM Reply With Quote
Anyone know anything about cracks in bricks? With pics!

I've a wall on the house that use to be the coal house/outside toilet, its been joined onto the rest of the property with an extension. I've a crack in a straight line about 6 ft long that goes straight through the middle of some bricks. Its been there for the 5 years i've been in the house and hasn't got any bigger. It starts 3 courses above the floor, its very thin and constant in width(2mm tops) for its whole length.

I'm now selling and i've got to get a structural engineer for my buyers mortgage company to have a look at it.

Obviously i'm a little worried at what they might say

I'm guessing when they dug out for foundations to go next to it, it moved a little. However its not got any bigger. Its a none load bearing wall.

Any structural engineers/experienced builders about that could help? It wasn't flagged as a problem when I bought the house however i've been informed that mortgage companies are very very fussy at the moment.

Any other ideas to what could have caused it?

Sorry if i've babbled a little.

[Edited on 13/10/11 by franky]

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r1bob

posted on 12/10/11 at 09:06 PM Reply With Quote
can you upload some pic's,
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JoelP

posted on 12/10/11 at 09:10 PM Reply With Quote
mortar too hard i believe. Ideally, when the wall settles then the mortar should break, not the bricks. Then you just repoint it and its as good as new.





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franky

posted on 12/10/11 at 09:28 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by r1bob
can you upload some pic's,


Will do in the morning

I can't just repair it now as it came up when my buyers mortgage company did a survey.

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jossey

posted on 13/10/11 at 07:40 AM Reply With Quote
render it so its not spottable





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franky

posted on 13/10/11 at 07:47 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jossey
render it so its not spottable


As above, its already been 'spotted'!

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franky

posted on 13/10/11 at 08:35 AM Reply With Quote
This pic shows the area, you can see where the new brickwork is......





This pic shows the exact area of the crack, the outside tap does come out directly in the middle of it.....





This is a close up of the crack....




It starts at about 3 bricks up from the outside floor level, constant width.

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Peteff

posted on 13/10/11 at 08:51 AM Reply With Quote
Demolish the coal house/cludge so it doesn't come into the equation. It was probably caused by tying it into the new building so one end is supported and the other has dropped breaking it's back a little. It is technically load bearing as it holds the roof up. As it was originally not part of the house I think it is a bit picky but it is their money.





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franky

posted on 13/10/11 at 08:57 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
Demolish the coal house/cludge so it doesn't come into the equation. It was probably caused by tying it into the new building so one end is supported and the other has dropped breaking it's back a little. It is technically load bearing as it holds the roof up. As it was originally not part of the house I think it is a bit picky but it is their money.


Urm its now got rooms on the other side so I can't just knock it down.

Its just the guy who did the survey wanted a 'proper' surveyor to have a look before they'll issue a mortgage. As you said being very picky.

Its got a flat roof on that part.

So do you think i'll have anything to worry about? All I need him to state is that its an 'historic' crack and the jobs a good un.

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tegwin

posted on 13/10/11 at 10:23 AM Reply With Quote
Thats not a crack...

If you cant get a fist in it... its not worth worrying about :p



[Edited on 13/10/11 by tegwin]





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franky

posted on 13/10/11 at 10:43 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
Thats not a crack...

If you cant get a fist in it... its not worth worrying about :p



[Edited on 13/10/11 by tegwin]


Lets hope the surveyor thinks the same.

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Ivan

posted on 13/10/11 at 11:28 AM Reply With Quote
I tend to agree that it is very minor and constitutes no serious structural risk - the only serious problem would be if it continued to widen significantly or if it was on the weather side and led to rain water penetration leading to indoor dampness.

But then I am not a specialist structural inspector/engineer and don't know what their pass and fail limits are.

[Edited on 13/10/11 by Ivan]

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JoelP

posted on 13/10/11 at 11:39 AM Reply With Quote
id agree thats nothing at all, of course two totally separate buildings are going to protest slightly if joined together. As i said, the mortar should have had a touch more sand in it, then the bricks wouldnt have broken and you could easily repointed it to make weathertight again.





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steve m

posted on 13/10/11 at 12:20 PM Reply With Quote
Leave a step ladder leaning against it, or anything that the surverer wont move, as the guys i had round here were to lazy to even open doors, who both said it was a 3 bedroom house, yet it has always been a proper 4 double rooms house

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Guinness

posted on 13/10/11 at 05:48 PM Reply With Quote
Must be a very heavy hose pipe.

In all seriousness though, I wouldn't be overly concerned with that. Absolute worst case (IMHO) would be to remove the mortar from a few courses, insert some helical ties and then mortar back up.

Google brick stitching or helical ties.

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franky

posted on 13/10/11 at 06:15 PM Reply With Quote
Had a proper surveyor round today, nothing to worry about

He was saying even less houses are being sold at the minute he's busier than ever as mortgage companies are being very picky and very strict about everything.

So if you are selling get it sorted ASAP!

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