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edspurrier

posted on 11/12/11 at 01:10 PM Reply With Quote
I've been considering this for a while. I haven't yet met an ophthalmic surgeon who has had it done, and until I do I'm not going to!

Complications seem to be unusual but potentially devastating, though most people seem to get a great result.

Also check with your clinic whether or not the operation is being done by a consultant surgeon who is on the specialist register.

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digiman

posted on 11/12/11 at 01:17 PM Reply With Quote
Lots of reviews here: Check out the Forum pages:

http://www.lasik-eyes.co.uk/

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jossey

posted on 11/12/11 at 01:40 PM Reply With Quote
dont watch final destination 5 then.





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bobinspain

posted on 11/12/11 at 02:21 PM Reply With Quote
Just found this.

www.visionsurgeryrehab.org

Good luck whatever you decide.

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RACER101

posted on 11/12/11 at 03:29 PM Reply With Quote
hmm this seems odd, definately at odds with the dvla forms ive seen for patients, uncorrected eyesight has nothing to do with it. u can drive an f1 car with glasses.

anyone considering laser eye surgery, should do research into the 2 main procedures - lasik and lasek and ask which one your getting.

racer 101 perhaps your confusing yag laser treatment which is not a refractive procedure.

oh and don't think you've escaped glasses forever, at the age of 45-50 u'll need glasses to read
[Edited on 11/12/11 by mrwibble]

[Edited on 11/12/11 by mrwibble]


Yup, I too thought it odd that uncorrected vision is an issue for the DVLA. For a car licence it doesn't matter but for a Lorry or Bus licence you must meet minimum standards for corrected vision in both eyes and if these are achieved by lenses or specs, then uncorrected visual acuity in each eye must be no less than 3/60.

I mistakenly assumed that uncorrected vision was irrelevant and then fell foul of the regulations when I had my 5 yearly HGV licence renewal medical earlier this year. Short of persuading my doctor & optician to lie on my behalf it seems that laser treatment is the only legal way to get my licence back.

Cheers,
John

[Edited on 11/12/11 by RACER101]

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RK

posted on 11/12/11 at 04:28 PM Reply With Quote
Get a second opinion whatever you decide to do.
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bmseven

posted on 11/12/11 at 11:15 PM Reply With Quote
Wife had hers done 18 years ago at Optimax
http://www.optimax.co.uk/
And she still has 20/20





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tomgregory2000

posted on 12/12/11 at 07:44 AM Reply With Quote
ive decieded to go and have a chat with optimax as well to see what they can do for me

^^^ that sounds reassuring with regards to optimax

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bmseven

posted on 12/12/11 at 08:13 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tomgregory2000
ive decieded to go and have a chat with optimax as well to see what they can do for me

^^^ that sounds reassuring with regards to optimax


Yeah she had it down in London when the kids were small as she couldnt see them at the pool without her glasses
Cost a bit more then and technology has changed since but as said she has been back to the Ipswich Clinic for a full check over and still has regular eye tests.

Think my daughter gets vouchers every now and again for referrals but have not seen one lately!





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wilkingj

posted on 12/12/11 at 10:32 AM Reply With Quote
IMHO, I would not let anyone bugger about with my eyes unless it was absolutely necessary.

If its a case of wear glasses or have laser eye surgery I would wear glasses (I do wear glasses for reading).

If its a case of its eye surgery or nothing sort of option, then its hobsons choice.

I would never let anyone touch my eyes unless it was a last restort solution.
I dont trust these companies, offering the best thing since sliced bread. They are in it for the Money, and not much else.

Having said that, I had a cattaract done earlier this year, and its made a fantastic difference. Glasses would not have fixed that.


Bottom Line is this:
You only get ONE PAIR OF EYES. Think long and hard about doing anything to them, that cant be fixed by external means, namely glasses or contact lenses. If its for cosmetic reasons, ie you dont look COOL in glasses, then you are too vain!

Laser surgery is relatively new (lifespan wise) you dont know what effect it will have in 20 or 30 or 40 years time.

Sorry but its my 2d's worth.
No offence intended. Eyes are just TOO precious to mess around with.








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The Shootist

posted on 12/12/11 at 07:14 PM Reply With Quote
My wife had hers done...

The wife was in a car accident nearly 20 years ago. The crash didn't effect her eyes, but the settlement effected our pocket books. She used her money to pay the portion our insurance wouldn't cover.

Now Deb had worn gasses since she was 4 years old, and when she had the old knife surgery her vision was -1300....legally blind and required a special stamp on her drivers license.

She had the procedure done in 2 sessions, one for each eye, 2 weeks apart. That way she could take a 3 day weekend for each procedure and be able too work, with 1 lens in her glasses for the period in between.

After the 1st sessions tension and apprehension the fact she could read street signs on the way home helped to make her more than willing to return for the other eye.

Nearly 20 years later she only wears glasses when her eyes are tired, or to drive. The glasses have an anti-glare coating for night driving as the procedure can give a slight halo effect around glare at night and the glasses eliminate that glare.

The original corrective eye procedures were developed in the USSR because the surgical correction saved a fortune for the health ministry by cutting the expense of glasses. The original process was carried out on a 12 bed rotating table where each step was carried out at a different station on an assembly line.

If the surgery isn't as close as they feel it should be, room is usually give to do a second corrective procedure to fine tune your vision.

If i needed the procedure to see, I would not hesitate to have it done.

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mrwibble

posted on 12/12/11 at 08:14 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RACER101
hmm this seems odd, definately at odds with the dvla forms ive seen for patients, uncorrected eyesight has nothing to do with it. u can drive an f1 car with glasses.

anyone considering laser eye surgery, should do research into the 2 main procedures - lasik and lasek and ask which one your getting.

racer 101 perhaps your confusing yag laser treatment which is not a refractive procedure.

oh and don't think you've escaped glasses forever, at the age of 45-50 u'll need glasses to read
[Edited on 11/12/11 by mrwibble]

[Edited on 11/12/11 by mrwibble]


Yup, I too thought it odd that uncorrected vision is an issue for the DVLA. For a car licence it doesn't matter but for a Lorry or Bus licence you must meet minimum standards for corrected vision in both eyes and if these are achieved by lenses or specs, then uncorrected visual acuity in each eye must be no less than 3/60.

I mistakenly assumed that uncorrected vision was irrelevant and then fell foul of the regulations when I had my 5 yearly HGV licence renewal medical earlier this year. Short of persuading my doctor & optician to lie on my behalf it seems that laser treatment is the only legal way to get my licence back.

Cheers,
John

[Edited on 11/12/11 by RACER101]


to be fair you must have a very strong prescription to be worse than 3/60? does seem very unfair, i wonder what the prescription limits are for refractive surgery.

just for your information, a new technique developed from cataract surgery is available these days which might be worth considering, I know this does cover very high Rxs, a chap who was over -10.00 DS (highest 2% of possible prescriptions) in our practice now only wears glasses for reading now.

[Edited on 12/12/11 by mrwibble]

[Edited on 12/12/11 by mrwibble]

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HowardB

posted on 12/12/11 at 08:34 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mrwibble
quote:
Originally posted by RACER101
hmm this seems odd, definately at odds with the dvla forms ive seen for patients, uncorrected eyesight has nothing to do with it. u can drive an f1 car with glasses.

anyone considering laser eye surgery, should do research into the 2 main procedures - lasik and lasek and ask which one your getting.

racer 101 perhaps your confusing yag laser treatment which is not a refractive procedure.

oh and don't think you've escaped glasses forever, at the age of 45-50 u'll need glasses to read
[Edited on 11/12/11 by mrwibble]

[Edited on 11/12/11 by mrwibble]


Yup, I too thought it odd that uncorrected vision is an issue for the DVLA. For a car licence it doesn't matter but for a Lorry or Bus licence you must meet minimum standards for corrected vision in both eyes and if these are achieved by lenses or specs, then uncorrected visual acuity in each eye must be no less than 3/60.

I mistakenly assumed that uncorrected vision was irrelevant and then fell foul of the regulations when I had my 5 yearly HGV licence renewal medical earlier this year. Short of persuading my doctor & optician to lie on my behalf it seems that laser treatment is the only legal way to get my licence back.

Cheers,
John

[Edited on 11/12/11 by RACER101]


to be fair you must have a very strong prescription to be worse than 3/60? does seem very unfair, i wonder what the prescription limits are for refractive surgery.

just for your information, a new technique developed from cataract surgery is available these days which might be worth considering, I know this does cover very high Rxs, a chap who was over -10.00 DS (highest 2% of possible prescriptions) in our practice now only wears glasses for reading now.

[Edited on 12/12/11 by mrwibble]

[Edited on 12/12/11 by mrwibble]


What's the procedure called, I ask as my sight is -6.75, not great, and without glasses tantamount to useless,..!





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RACER101

posted on 12/12/11 at 08:47 PM Reply With Quote
to be fair you must have a very strong prescription to be worse than 3/60? does seem very unfair, i wonder what the prescription limits are for refractive surgery.

just for your information, a new technique developed from cataract surgery is available these days which might be worth considering, I know this does cover very high Rxs, a chap who was over -10.00 DS (highest 2% of possible prescriptions) in our practice now only wears glasses for reading now.

[Edited on 12/12/11 by mrwibble]

[Edited on 12/12/11 by mrwibble]



Absolutely! Worse than 3/60 makes me horribly short sighted without specs or lenses.

I haven't consulted a laser surgery company in person yet so I might indeed be outside their surgery limits although, having entered all my prescription details into one of the well known providers web sites, it says that I should be ok.

Thanks for the info about the new procedure too.

Cheers,
John

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Jasper

posted on 13/12/11 at 11:27 AM Reply With Quote
I was about -4.00 in both eyes, and 3 years ago had surgery with Optimax in Brighton. I can't fault any of it, great consulation, gave me all the options, advised me against the most expensive system as it was not necessary, I went with Lasik and it cost about £900 an eye.

The procedure was very weird but not painful, and I could see straight away afterwards, by the next morning my sight was perfect. It took about 6 months for night vision to be perfect, up till then there was a bit of ghosting, but nothing serious. I do struggle a bit in low light condition, dusk and dawn, but again not very noticeable.

Optimax after care was excellent, and they've never hassled me to get them more customers.

I can't recommend it enough, wish I'd done it years before, always hated wearing glasses.





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rodgling

posted on 13/12/11 at 11:52 AM Reply With Quote
This is surprisingly mature technology - corrective eye surgery started in the 60s (not with lasers back then mind). It's worth bearing in mind that it's largely computer-controlled so it's very repeatable and reliable. 90%+ of results are exactly as predicted, and of the rest, 90%+ are merely "not quite as good as hoped for" not "worse than before".
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