russbost
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 09:02 AM |
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Induction hob vs Ceramic?
Ok, Mrs Russ wants a new kitchen, Jeez, & they say OUR hobby is expensive!!!
So, when we fit the new hob, it will be either ceramic (glass top) or induction, she wants the ease of cleaning, fast, clean heat etc. From everything
I've read the induction hob is faster, more energy efficient & generally better - shame they are about 4 x the price of a ceramic!
Are there any downsides to induction (apart from the price), for instance does anyone on here fit these things for a living & has found that the
Joe Bloggs xzy123 is highly unreliable etc etc., is there any maintenance required with either ceramic or induction or is it fit & forget till it
breaks?
Any recommendations for good manufacturers & those to avoid? & are there any "bells & whistles" that are particularly worth
having which aren't always included?
Also, this will need a new power supply, what sort of current do these things draw, do they need a dedicated supply & if so I assume permanently
wired in, not just on a plug socket - not that I'd dream of putting it in myself you understand, I just want to check the electrician is doing
it properly!
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johnemms
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 09:09 AM |
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I got a glass hob..........
You should see me move when the missus leaves the spuds & I hear it boiling over...........
Being flat .. the water goes 'everywhere'!!!!
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loggyboy
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 09:28 AM |
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Induction require ferrous pots and pans to work (which most are, but worth checking all your current ones are first). They are very clever tho, as
pretty much the moment you remove the pan, they are cool.
We have a glass cerramic, pretty good for cleaning, but take a while to heat and cool, so not as controlable as gas or induction. Have you considered
Gas on Glass? they are easier to clean and look cooler than normal metal gas hobs, but still retain the control of gas - obviously!
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russbost
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 09:54 AM |
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"Have you considered Gas on Glass?"
Hadn't even heard of that one, wouldn't it slow the heating ability & controllability of the gas down?
I no longer run Furore Products or Furore Cars Ltd, but would still highly recommend them for Acewell dashes, projector headlights, dominator
headlights, indicators, mirrors etc, best prices in the UK! Take a look at http://www.furoreproducts.co.uk/ or find more parts on Ebay, user names
furoreltd & furoreproducts, discounts available for LCB users.
Don't forget Stainless Steel Braided brake hoses, made to your exact requirements in any of around 16 colours.
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/furoreproducts/m.html?_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_sop=12&_rdc=1
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mookaloid
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 09:57 AM |
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It's gas every time for me. If ceramic/induction hobs were so good why don't they use them in professional kitchens?
As a letting agent with hundreds of managed properties I can say that they are quite fragile and we constantly have complaints that "it cracked
all by itself" and "we definitely did not drop any pans on it ever"
Gas is great to cook with and I have yet to see a satisfactory solution for using a wok on a ceramic hob - I couldn't live without my wok...
Other than that they are great - go for it
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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loggyboy
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 09:57 AM |
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its not that complicated, its just a glass base with the gas rings on top.
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mookaloid
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 10:00 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by russbost
"Have you considered Gas on Glass?"
Hadn't even heard of that one, wouldn't it slow the heating ability & controllability of the gas down?
like this:
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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loggyboy
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 10:08 AM |
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Well thats a CGI, but like this:
Or if your feeling very fancy:
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JoelP
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 10:20 AM |
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induction hobs need the same power supply as ceramic, usually a 32A feed via a 6mm cable. You can have a double oven on the same circuit though.
Ditto marks coments on them breaking, mine is well smashed but still works.
I fitted the 5 burner version of that cda hob last week!
PS i was under the impression that most pans arent ferrous and dont work on induction hobs, and that a new set of suitable pans can be expensive. A
magnet will tell if your pans are ok for induction
[Edited on 31/1/12 by JoelP]
Beware! Bourettes is binfectious.
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big-vee-twin
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 10:24 AM |
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Lots of proffesional kitchens are now moving over to induction hobs, the reason for this is that they they are more energy efficient as they dont heat
up the Kitchen, just the pan.
Just designing two new Kitchens for a Catering College Restaurant and Refectory and they will be using Induction Hobs
Duratec Engine is fitted, MS2 Extra V3 is assembled and tested, engine running, car now built. IVA passed 26/02/2016
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Jasper
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 10:52 AM |
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I've got a top of the range NEFF induction hob, had it for about 4 years now and wouldn't ever have anything else! I love cooking and had
always had gas before and swore I would never use anything else, but after trying one out I was instantly won over.
The power is instant, it boils water faster than our new quick boil kettle and much faster than gas, and yet you can take the pan off and touch
(just!) the glass and it won't burn you, which means food never sticks to it - you just wipe it over with a damp cloth. It saves HOURS of
cleaning compared to a gas hob that's for sure.
It's superbly controllable, 18 different temp settings so you can really control the cooking. Totally wipe clean touch sensitive surface, though
get one with a bit of a lip around the edge as over-boiled water will run off the edges.
It is NOTHING like a regular ceramic hob, completely different to use.
Spend the extra, it really is worth it:
http://www.neff.co.uk/T44T43.html
We got the one with the magnetic knob which makes setting the temps much easier.
As for pans, most will work, they have to be stainless steel, steel or iron - which most pans are anyway. It's only the ali ones which
don't work.
And as for commercial kitchens not using them - if you watch TV you'll see just how many professional chefs and top cooks use them - including
Heston.
[Edited on 31/1/12 by Jasper]
If you're not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room.
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JoelP
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 11:07 AM |
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do you still find yourself playing with the button jasper?! I've spent hours trying to slide it into orbit
Beware! Bourettes is binfectious.
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designer
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 11:19 AM |
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have had a ceramic hob, but our induction hob, with touch controls is the 'bees knees', I even do some cooking on ours and it's so
easy for her to clean!
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40inches
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 11:40 AM |
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Ceramic hob breakage is covered by your home contents insurance (or should be!)
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Jasper
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 11:59 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
Ceramic hob breakage is covered by your home contents insurance (or should be!)
Oh yes, my wife dropped the stainless steel filter from the extractor on it and smashed the glass, 3 days later we had a brand new one installed,
covered by the insurance.
And yes, I do find myself playing with the magnetic knob 
If you're not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 01:30 PM |
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Doesn't the glass get scratched up by the saucepans?
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designer
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 01:51 PM |
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quote:
Doesn't the glass get scratched up by the saucepans?
Never had a scratch on any of mine.
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ashg
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 02:20 PM |
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forget all the above
get a turbo wok
Reasoning behind this....................... Anything with a TURBO is a must have item
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
Haynes Roadster (Finished)
Exocet (Finished & Sold)
New Project (Started)
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40inches
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 02:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jasper
quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
Ceramic hob breakage is covered by your home contents insurance (or should be!)
Oh yes, my wife dropped the stainless steel filter from the extractor on it and smashed the glass, 3 days later we had a brand new one installed,
covered by the insurance.
And yes, I do find myself playing with the magnetic knob
Had a customer drop the extractor filter onto a 3day old slot in cooker, didn't break the glass but put dints in both sides of the surround,
insurance replaced it with brand new cooker 3 days later (£560 )
Customer sold damaged one on ebay for £280, that paid for a new dishwasher. Well happy.
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Jasper
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 03:10 PM |
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Yeah - sold my damaged one too 
And no, they don't scratch unless you put rock salt on them and then put a pan on top of that. Mine hasn't got a mark 4 years on.
If you're not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room.
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gottabedone
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 04:35 PM |
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had an induction for 4 years now and it's great. It's glass touchscreen so very bling
It's hardly marked and very safe - almost instantly off.
Had a gas on glass (well mirror actually) and that was really good too - harder to clean though.
They are both very different but I like them both although we had to buy new pans for the induction (Her indoors was happy with this bit)
Steve
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russbost
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| posted on 31/1/12 at 07:37 PM |
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Many thanx for all the info guys, looks like it'll be the induction jobby then!
So how about a group Acewell buy? Someones got to pay for this!!!
I no longer run Furore Products or Furore Cars Ltd, but would still highly recommend them for Acewell dashes, projector headlights, dominator
headlights, indicators, mirrors etc, best prices in the UK! Take a look at http://www.furoreproducts.co.uk/ or find more parts on Ebay, user names
furoreltd & furoreproducts, discounts available for LCB users.
Don't forget Stainless Steel Braided brake hoses, made to your exact requirements in any of around 16 colours.
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/furoreproducts/m.html?_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_sop=12&_rdc=1
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JoelP
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| posted on 17/2/12 at 08:07 PM |
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I got hold of a free indution hob last week, so tested my pans with a magnet. Only 1 out of 7 is magnetic, and as youd expect from sods law, its the
one we use least that would work! So im pondering whether i can be bothered buying new pans now...
Beware! Bourettes is binfectious.
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