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The Venom Project

posted on 3/6/12 at 05:45 PM Reply With Quote
I seem to have lost my Brake Lights?

I have tail lights, indicators but for some reason I have lost Brake Lights, they were working before, any ideas? checked all the connections, I can only think the brake light pressure switch might be buggered? Any ideas would be most appreciated, won't be going to Newark in it if I have no brake lights. Everything else seems fine, checked fuses, what the hell can it be?

This is an R1 engine with original loom just extended, and everything was fine.

Cheers

Nick





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rodgling

posted on 3/6/12 at 05:47 PM Reply With Quote
Use a multimeter to test the pressure switch?
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perksy

posted on 3/6/12 at 05:56 PM Reply With Quote
Check the brake pressure switch

Might be worth considering fitting a micro switch instead

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AdrianH

posted on 3/6/12 at 06:01 PM Reply With Quote
I would also suggest the pressure switch is at fault. Probably high resistance, try lots and I mean hard pedal pressure to see if the lights will come on.

The contacts can soon burn out, as the switches are not as good as they used to be made in the original mini's etc.

If it is the switch consider helping it with a relay so the relay takes the switching current and not the pressure switch. The typical current drawn is 3 to 3.5 Amps so can soon arc the contacts.

I found this of help from an MG forum
switch linky



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[Edited on 3-6-12 by AdrianH]





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The Venom Project

posted on 3/6/12 at 06:01 PM Reply With Quote
Just tested the rear brake light switch output and find when the pins are shorted together it works the brake lights, therefore its looking very much like a faulty Hydraulic Brake Light Switch..... How very annoying indeed, its not even a year old

Cheers for the responses guys, Nosecone coming off tomorrow to get a closer look.





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AdrianH

posted on 3/6/12 at 06:04 PM Reply With Quote
The other question is have you used an M10 fine thread one or a 1/8th NTP threaded one?

The metric ones are easier to get now.

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The Venom Project

posted on 3/6/12 at 06:12 PM Reply With Quote
I seem to think its an M10 one, but now considering fitting a conventional Brake Light Switch like a micro switch, as its been in use for about 2 months so its pretty shoddy if its packed up already. Where its located I cannot easily remove without taking the nose off, I would have expected it to last much much longer.

Will know for sure tomorrow, was hoping for a nice relaxing long weekend, the joys of owning Kit Cars





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The Venom Project

posted on 3/6/12 at 06:17 PM Reply With Quote
Bonnet Switch

Just found one of those old style Moss Security bonnet switches, which I think will do the job fine from a suitable bracket I will try and make tomorrow,





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perksy

posted on 3/6/12 at 06:18 PM Reply With Quote
Make a bracket up and fit a micro switch, Solder some tails on the excisting wires if you need to lengthen them

It'll be a lot more reliable and less hassle in the future

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Snuggs

posted on 3/6/12 at 06:21 PM Reply With Quote
How is the switch orientated ?

If the terminals are pointing up then an air bubble can collect in the inlet of the switch.





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lotusmadandy

posted on 3/6/12 at 06:26 PM Reply With Quote
My pressure switch stopped working after my sva.
I found that it had air trapped in the opening and
it wouldnt allow the connection to be made.
I turned the t upside down so the switch pointed at the
floor,it solved the problem.

Just a thought...........

Andy

[Edited on 3/6/12 by lotusmadandy]

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bob

posted on 3/6/12 at 06:32 PM Reply With Quote
As above,exactly the same happened to me.

Although i didnt move the orientation of the pressure switch, i just bled the brakes properly to sort the problem.






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Peteff

posted on 4/6/12 at 08:04 AM Reply With Quote
If you're replacing the switch with a mechanical one remove it and fit a bleed instead.





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iank

posted on 4/6/12 at 08:18 AM Reply With Quote
If you persevere with the hydraulic switches buy an OEM VAG one. See http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=169898

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MikeRJ

posted on 4/6/12 at 12:32 PM Reply With Quote
I don't understand the theory behind air stopping these switches working. Pressure is pressure, and the air will always be at exactly the same pressure as the brake fluid. I suppose if there is enough air that you wouldn't be able to generate sufficient pressure to operate the switch, but then you wouldn't have any brakes either.
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