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morcus

posted on 16/12/12 at 04:48 PM Reply With Quote
Is putting note on cars Vandalism?







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westf27

posted on 16/12/12 at 04:54 PM Reply With Quote
Probably if you write it with a screwdriver





could well be if the wiper fell off in your hand whilst leaving the note,nothing would surprise me





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matt_claydon

posted on 16/12/12 at 04:57 PM Reply With Quote
Some background?
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NigeEss

posted on 16/12/12 at 05:05 PM Reply With Quote
Nope.

I have left many a note for the assh0les who park in stupid places and if they have really
annoyed me I've written the note on the windscreen in permanent black marker !!





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morcus

posted on 16/12/12 at 05:09 PM Reply With Quote
This is mostly a hyperthetical but if it makes a difference, a car in a public place and not doing anything illegal or stupid.

If it does make a difference, when would it be vandalism, and when would it not be?





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Dangle_kt

posted on 16/12/12 at 05:12 PM Reply With Quote
I would assume when damage is done - a paper note does no damage else them bloomin flyers under your wiper at the supermarket would have been sued by everyone going.

If someone is tryin to make out it is vandelism then I'd converse only via notes stuck to my ass from then on, just to prove what they are being.

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cliftyhanger

posted on 16/12/12 at 05:12 PM Reply With Quote
lets put it this way. The police are unlikely to want to get involved if you put a note under somebodies wiper. If you supegleu something to the windscreen it may be different.
Or are you asking if somebody puts a parking charge notice on a car??

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BigFaceDave

posted on 16/12/12 at 05:19 PM Reply With Quote
I'm fairly certain if you accidentally damage someone's car and their not around isn't it a legal requirement to leave a note? Therefore it can't be vandalism can it?
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Slimy38

posted on 16/12/12 at 05:30 PM Reply With Quote
We used to have trouble with illegal parking on our work car park (private land), so security used to stick A4 paper signs to the drivers window. And by 'stick', I mean with something that has the consistency and stickiness of snot. Even if they got the A4 page off, the glass would be pretty messed up.

Never got anyone complaining, and we never saw the cars again.

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jps

posted on 16/12/12 at 06:08 PM Reply With Quote
What normal people call 'vandalism' the police refer to as 'criminal damage'. The definition states that permanent damage must be caused, eg spraying shaving foam onto a car bonnet isn't 'criminal damage' as it can be washed off easily, won't mark the surface. Throwing a tin of paint across a car bonnet is an offence though, it can't be easily rectified.

Whether or not offences are recorded is to an extent down to discretion of officers though, which probably explains why this year where i live the number of'criminal damage' offences recorded has fallen by a third...

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matt_claydon

posted on 16/12/12 at 06:10 PM Reply With Quote
I'm just confused by the question, and by the 2 people who have so far said 'yes'! How can something that doesn't cause any damage be vandalism?
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robinj66

posted on 16/12/12 at 06:44 PM Reply With Quote
Criminal Damage includes "non-permanent" damage such as graffiti. Basically, if "expense of inconvenience" is involved in putting the matter right then the offence has been made out. Even deleting a computer program which can be replaced can constitute crim damage.
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snapper

posted on 16/12/12 at 07:22 PM Reply With Quote
Permenant and malicious damage
Something like writing on a car with permenant marker would be considered an offence
A note or a flyer would not





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scootz

posted on 16/12/12 at 07:27 PM Reply With Quote
No idea about England and Wales, but in Scotland... definitely not!





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morcus

posted on 16/12/12 at 07:31 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the replies, the answer seems to be almost unanimous.





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scudderfish

posted on 16/12/12 at 07:55 PM Reply With Quote
Why are you asking?
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britishtrident

posted on 16/12/12 at 08:45 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
We used to have trouble with illegal parking on our work car park (private land), so security used to stick A4 paper signs to the drivers window. And by 'stick', I mean with something that has the consistency and stickiness of snot. Even if they got the A4 page off, the glass would be pretty messed up.

Never got anyone complaining, and we never saw the cars again.



Obstructing the drivers vision is asking to get sued if they have an accident --- but rear side widows are fair game





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scootz

posted on 16/12/12 at 09:05 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by britishtrident
Obstructing the drivers vision is asking to get sued if they have an accident...


On what basis? It's not like someone has surreptitiously sabotaged your vehicle... you know before you drive off if your view is obstructed!

It's the drivers responsibility to make sure that the car is fit for the road, so you either clean the affected area until it's no longer a problem... or don't drive!





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snakebelly

posted on 16/12/12 at 09:49 PM Reply With Quote
So who's car did you leave a note on and why?
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morcus

posted on 16/12/12 at 09:55 PM Reply With Quote
I've not done anything to any one, I was trying to prove a point with someone else, though of course he doesn't accept a Locost builders poll.





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Ninehigh

posted on 16/12/12 at 09:59 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by morcus
I've not done anything to any one, I was trying to prove a point with someone else, though of course he doesn't accept a Locost builders poll.


Maybe they should ask the police then






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morcus

posted on 16/12/12 at 10:06 PM Reply With Quote
We settled it another way...





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BigFaceDave

posted on 16/12/12 at 10:12 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by morcus
We settled it another way...






On a more serious note according to google the definition of vandalism is "Action involving deliberate destruction of or damage to public or private property"

So Seeing as a note on a windscreen cant destruct or damage a car in my mind its simple, No putting a note on a windscreen isnt vandalism. P.S. do they not know that LCB word is final!

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omega 24 v6

posted on 16/12/12 at 11:36 PM Reply With Quote
rock paper scissors lizard spock???





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Peteff

posted on 17/12/12 at 09:23 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by omega 24 v6
rock paper scissors lizard spock???


Can you explain the rules to that please ?
Sheldon's explanation.Here.

[Edited on 17/12/12 by Peteff]





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