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Author: Subject: Bolts - BS 916 vs grade 50b ??? Help!
mcerd1

posted on 15/2/13 at 08:38 AM Reply With Quote
Bolts - BS 916 vs grade 50b ??? Help!

Got a wee issue with job here

the customer has specified 3/4" bolts with a grade 50b (aka: S355JR)

imperial bolts would normally be to BS 916, but as far as I know it only offers 26 or 28 ton/sq.in grades [~401 or 432N/mm˛] with 20% or 17% elongation (that puts them somewhere between a grade 4.6 and 4.8, yeilds 240 and 320N/mm˛)

the supplier has come back and offered grade S355JR or 8.8 claiming thay are the same (yields are 355 and 640 N/mm˛ respectivley) - so obviously thats not quite right


anyone got any clues / thoughts ?

or a long shot, has anyone still got a copy of the old imperial BS 449 ?


in days of old I know that when working with high yeild steel like S355 it was normal to use 8.8 bolts - so I'm wondering if thats whats going on here....

cheers
-Robert





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rachaeljf

posted on 15/2/13 at 09:15 AM Reply With Quote
Highly unusual to specify bolts like that. Is there a particular need for such soft bolts? What is the connection detail? What is the site location?

Cheers R

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designer

posted on 15/2/13 at 09:17 AM Reply With Quote
Your customer has no idea.
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mcerd1

posted on 15/2/13 at 09:37 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by designer
Your customer has no idea.
tell me about it

but there drawings are all like that for the last 30+ years, and the ones before that didn't even specify any grade on anything at all

(if i told you what these were for it would scare you....)





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matt_claydon

posted on 15/2/13 at 01:24 PM Reply With Quote
Tell your customer that UK Engineering began metrication in the 60s, and it's therefore about time they caught up!?
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chillis

posted on 15/2/13 at 01:38 PM Reply With Quote
Imperial bolts are available in R,S, T, V, and X as well as sae 5 - 8.

http://www.gartoninternational.com/ Contact this supplier as they may have information that may help you find an imperial grade that matches your requirement. I'm guessing that you want the imperial version of an 8.8?





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sdh2903

posted on 15/2/13 at 04:12 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by matt_claydon
Tell your customer that UK Engineering began metrication in the 60s, and it's therefore about time they caught up!?


Try telling that to the aerospace industry






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