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Not Anumber

posted on 6/4/13 at 03:52 PM Reply With Quote
is it really an lsd ?

I'm trying to check if my MK has a LSD. The previous owner seemed certain of it but I'm not so sure. For starters it has push in shafts and drum brakes and though that wouldnt absolutely rule it out this would seen an unusual combination for LSD. I cant find any markings on the diff that would help.

With the wheels off the ground, in gear with the engine running the wheels both turn in the same direction.

Take it out of gear, turn one wheel by hand and the other turns in the opposite direction.

Does this definietly mean it's not a limited slip diff ?






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blakep82

posted on 6/4/13 at 03:58 PM Reply With Quote
open diff would mean the wheels turn opposite directions, lsd should both turn the same way.
sounds like an open diff to me.

best way to check though is get the diff cover off and have a look





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owelly

posted on 6/4/13 at 04:01 PM Reply With Quote
The XR4x4 LSD isn't your conventional LSD. It's more of a friction LSD thingy so it would behave similar to an open diff.





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wylliezx9r

posted on 6/4/13 at 04:35 PM Reply With Quote
My xr4x4 lsd the wheels turn in the same direction when off the floor. Sounds like an open diff to me also.

[Edited on 6/4/13 by wylliezx9r]





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mark chandler

posted on 6/4/13 at 04:38 PM Reply With Quote
Sierra LSD, leave in gear, jack the wheels up and try and spin the wheels, LSD it will be very hard to move, open diff and the opposite wheels goes in the opposite direction easily.

Sounds like an open diff.

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Dooey99

posted on 6/4/13 at 04:45 PM Reply With Quote
jack one side up put it in first and rev the tits out of your engine and if the wheel on the floor gets grip and pushes you off the jack or axle stand then its a LSD





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adithorp

posted on 6/4/13 at 06:58 PM Reply With Quote
If the wheel turn opposite directions when you turn one, then it's either an open diff or a Quaife ATB.

Only way to tell is to look inside. Pull out a shaft and an open diff will have a shaft across between the two sets of splines, a Quaife will be clear through to the other side.





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tomgregory2000

posted on 6/4/13 at 07:42 PM Reply With Quote
Easy way to work this out

Build the revs
Select first gear
Drop the clutch
And see if you leave an 11 or a 1 Dow the road

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Xtreme Kermit

posted on 6/4/13 at 07:49 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tomgregory2000
Easy way to work this out

Build the revs
Select first gear
Drop the clutch
And see if you leave an 11 or a 1 Dow the road



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Oddified

posted on 6/4/13 at 08:10 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Xtreme Kermit
quote:
Originally posted by tomgregory2000
Easy way to work this out

Build the revs
Select first gear
Drop the clutch
And see if you leave an 11 or a 1 Dow the road



Lol


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snapper

posted on 7/4/13 at 07:29 AM Reply With Quote
Jack one wheel, neutral, turn wheel by hand
LSD should be very difficult
Owleys comments are not correct the Sierra LSD is a viscous coupled diff not plates and can be felt working on a bench





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Paul Turner

posted on 7/4/13 at 07:50 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp

If the wheel turn opposite directions when you turn one, then it's either an open diff or a Quaife ATB.




Wrong.

That applies only to an open diff.

Over the years I have had 2 x Quaiffe, 1 x Salisbury and 1 x ZF LSD's in my cars. I can 100% guarantee that with a Quaiffe fitted both wheels turn in the same direction when its jacked off the floor just like it does with a Salisbury or ZF slipper.

I was in the garage yesterday working on the rear of my car fitted witha a Quaiffe and it was plain to see both wheels turning in the same direction.

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Dan.

posted on 7/4/13 at 10:53 AM Reply With Quote
The torsen diff on my friends supra looks to be an open diff when you turn one wheel the other rotates the opposit direction. However apply a load and its a different story, not all LSDs lock the wheels together with no load, as said you need to take the diff cover off or try and lay some 11s
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coyoteboy

posted on 7/4/13 at 11:05 AM Reply With Quote
Indeed my Torsen looks like an open in every way until you pull the case plate off






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mookaloid

posted on 7/4/13 at 12:20 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
Sierra LSD, leave in gear, jack the wheels up and try and spin the wheels, LSD it will be very hard to move, open diff and the opposite wheels goes in the opposite direction easily.

Sounds like an open diff.


this is the correct answer for a sierra LSD.





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Not Anumber

posted on 7/4/13 at 04:54 PM Reply With Quote
clear.. as mud then.






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mookaloid

posted on 7/4/13 at 05:11 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Not Anumber
clear.. as mud then.


as above - leave in gear, jack the rear wheels up and try and spin the wheels, if it is a LSD it will be very hard to turn the wheels. If it is an open diff then the wheels will turn easily.

In either case if you do this the wheels will turn in opposite directions (that is the way diffs work)

Simples





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mackei23b

posted on 7/4/13 at 06:22 PM Reply With Quote
Sustained donuts...the ultimate test.....

Here is mine, Sierra diff with push in shafts and AP Suretrak LSD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8l5mXMS__8

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