Slimy38
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 05:36 PM |
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cheapest place for an engine hoist
Looking for an engine hoist, 1 ton minimum. (It's not just to lift an engine, I will need to lift an MX5 off it's wheels). I've
found this one;
http://www.sgs-engineering.com/garage-equipment/engine-cranes/ec1000-1-ton-folding-engine-crane
Is that the best option or is there something cheaper?
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pewe
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 05:49 PM |
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Be a bit careful about buying a 1 ton lift - IIRC even a Mk1 MX5 kerb weight is 1,008kg.
Also will an engine crane have enough reach to lift the complete car?
Cheers, Pewe10 
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Slimy38
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 06:41 PM |
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Should have clarified, it'll lift the MX5 chassis off the two subframes. And the chassis will have already been stripped down to it's bare
essentials.
This is what I used for a basis;
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=450119
The reach is ok as well, the manual for that particular lift has position 1 (the 1 ton lift) as 902mm reach. And an MX5 is 1700mm wide.
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blakep82
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 06:47 PM |
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I got one from ebay many years ago,
2 TONNE ENGINE CRANE new ct173 | eBay
Or
1 TONNE FOLDING HYDRAULIC ENGINE CRANE/HOIST/LIFT | eBay
1 TONNE FOLDING HYDRAULIC ENGINE CRANE/HOIST/LIFT
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matt_gsxr
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 06:56 PM |
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If you have something strong to hang it off then you can get cheap chain hoists (~£30-40), which don't need as much storage space when you have
finished doing your lifting. ebay has a bunch
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ashg
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 07:06 PM |
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Mx5 shells weigh less than 400kg been there done it got the t shirt. If you have got a couple of mates you can lift the shell off pretty easily
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Toltec
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 07:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ashg
Mx5 shells weigh less than 400kg been there done it got the t shirt. If you have got a couple of mates you can lift the shell off pretty easily
A couple being the operative phrase, as the one mate in this instance it got kind of interesting when the weight shifted and I ended up holding a
chunk of the 400Kgs.
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Slimy38
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 07:46 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by matt_gsxr
If you have something strong to hang it off then you can get cheap chain hoists (~£30-40), which don't need as much storage space when you have
finished doing your lifting. ebay has a bunch
That might be an idea, I don't have anything to hang it from but would knocking up an A frame work? Although I'd need to figure out what
to build it from.
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Slimy38
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 07:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Toltec
quote:
Originally posted by ashg
Mx5 shells weigh less than 400kg been there done it got the t shirt. If you have got a couple of mates you can lift the shell off pretty easily
A couple being the operative phrase, as the one mate in this instance it got kind of interesting when the weight shifted and I ended up holding a
chunk of the 400Kgs.
Yeah, I think with the best will in the world me and my friends would still need some sort of mechanical advantage even with a stripped down MX5
chassis! And it will also be used to fit the engine which is a bit more difficult with only friend power.
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iank
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 08:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
quote:
Originally posted by matt_gsxr
If you have something strong to hang it off then you can get cheap chain hoists (~£30-40), which don't need as much storage space when you have
finished doing your lifting. ebay has a bunch
That might be an idea, I don't have anything to hang it from but would knocking up an A frame work? Although I'd need to figure out what
to build it from.
I did this using 2x4's plenty strong enough. If you use a chain hoist a bucket used to stop the chain thrashing about is a good investment.
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Dave Ashurst
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 08:48 PM |
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borrow my chain hoist if you want...
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Slimy38
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 08:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
I did this using 2x4's plenty strong enough. If you use a chain hoist a bucket used to stop the chain thrashing about is a good investment.
Aha, that sounds like a plan. Any recommendations on minimum spec timber, I'm guessing the span at least would require something a bit
decent?
What sort of weight were you lifting, am I pushing my luck with half a ton?
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Slimy38
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 08:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave Ashurst
borrow my chain hoist if you want...
Thanks for the offer, unfortunately with the speed of my build at the moment I'd have to keep it longer than I would feel comfortable with.
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iank
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 08:56 PM |
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I was lifting an a-series with gearbox and all ancillaries fitted so not quite as much as you but a fair weight. I did brace the top beam with a bit
of angle iron, but it didn't even creak. Watch for sideways movement and have a plan for bracing it in that direction.
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Irony
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 09:09 PM |
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I would just buy a reasonable one from machine mart. I use mine quite bit instead of a jack. Just latch onto the roll cage and lift away.
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coozer
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 09:11 PM |
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Make one...
http://www.how-to-plans.com/Shop-Crane-Engine-Hoist-Plans.html
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ashg
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| posted on 26/6/13 at 10:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Toltec
quote:
Originally posted by ashg
Mx5 shells weigh less than 400kg been there done it got the t shirt. If you have got a couple of mates you can lift the shell off pretty easily
A couple being the operative phrase, as the one mate in this instance it got kind of interesting when the weight shifted and I ended up holding a
chunk of the 400Kgs.
you still managed to hold half an mx5 shell all on your own  agreed another mate on hand would have been handy
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Litemoth
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| posted on 27/6/13 at 08:39 AM |
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Be mindful that a hoist's lifting capacity goes down dramatically the more you extend the boom. It looks like you'll need it to be at full
reach for this job. I think a 1-tonner is rated at 250 kilos at full stretch (as you're lengthening the lever)
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Litemoth
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| posted on 27/6/13 at 08:46 AM |
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Hire one.... £15?
Hire my 2 tonne car engine crane hoist daily/weekly | eBay
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Slimy38
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| posted on 27/6/13 at 09:37 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Litemoth
Be mindful that a hoist's lifting capacity goes down dramatically the more you extend the boom. It looks like you'll need it to be at full
reach for this job. I think a 1-tonner is rated at 250 kilos at full stretch (as you're lengthening the lever)
Yep I know, but the manual for that linked one says the reach is sufficient whilst still maintaining the 1 ton lifting capacity.
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Litemoth
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| posted on 27/6/13 at 09:52 AM |
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All the same, I'd hire a 2 tonner or get the mates round. Engine hoists spend 99% of their life stuck in the garage getting in your way and are
rubbish and manoeuvrability.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 27/6/13 at 02:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Litemoth
All the same, I'd hire a 2 tonner or get the mates round. Engine hoists spend 99% of their life stuck in the garage getting in your way and are
rubbish and manoeuvrability.
I've ended up with 2 different 2 tonne ones (both old versions of the machine mart ones)
my dad gave me one for my christmas (second hand) and the other is my mates that he doesn't have space to store
there are plenty secondhand ones for sale at more sensible prices if you keep your eyes open (obviously watch out for damaged ones, leeky rams and
badly welded up repairs etc....)
they are nice to have, but they don't get used that much and even the fold-up ones take up a bit of space 
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thefreak
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| posted on 27/6/13 at 02:33 PM |
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I've split 2 Mk1s now with my Clarke 1t jobbie. It is fine for the job.
It's also come in useful removing engines and boxes from the MX150R and a Mk2 I sorted a few months ago. If you use it 5 times, it's paid
for itself as opposed to hiring one as you can sell it on at some point for at least 50% of what it cost.
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Slimy38
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| posted on 27/6/13 at 02:54 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by thefreak
as you can sell it on at some point for at least 50% of what it cost.
That's another side I hadn't really considered, I reckon even if I only aimed for 50% on a buy it now it would be gone in seconds. Most
second hand ones on Ebay are only £20 or so cheaper than full price.
I think I might just buy one, get my use out of it and then sell it on.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 27/6/13 at 03:45 PM |
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have you looked on gumtree etc... ?
alot of stuff ebay on ebay makes silly money
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