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Mattwillmett

posted on 28/10/13 at 10:19 PM Reply With Quote
Hayabusa oil queries

hiya, i have recently bought a 2003 hayabusa which i intend to put into a buggie that i am building. it will be used for offroading round fields ect. but i am also planning on putting it on the road which could be a bit of a task but i am still strongly looking into it, any information about the IVA test would be greatly appreaciated.

more to the point, i have heard from several people that when useing motorbike engines like this, you can get problems with the oil sloshing? what would be the best way to overcome this problem and how serious is it? i have had a quick look on ebay and have found some baffels which you can put into the sump costing around £65 has anyone had any experience with these beucase looking at a dry sump seems highly out of my price range.
any information and opinions would be great, cheers.

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Bare

posted on 29/10/13 at 01:24 AM Reply With Quote
Busa engine was Designed for a Bike.
Cornering AND gravity loads re Oiling were well compensated for.
Dick with the mounting /application and it's pretty well mandatory to fit a dry sump.
No substitutes.
If $$ are an issue? sell it to someone who can afford to do it

[Edited on 29/10/13 by Bare]

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Mattwillmett

posted on 29/10/13 at 09:13 PM Reply With Quote
cheers for that input but i was looking for some opinions, which are beside the idea of giving up if there is any out there cheers
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Andy B

posted on 29/10/13 at 10:46 PM Reply With Quote
To be totally honest and having played with a lot of these installs the only way to control oil surge in a busa motor properly is to dry sump them. We have designed billet wet sumps for many of the super bike engines but the busa has pretty much defied us and we always dry sump them. There are a few wet sumps and also a swing sump but to be fair if you push hard and try and enjoy what the engine has to offer these will invariably come up short and let you down in a big and expensive way.
You will definitely not control things with a baffle alone and would be better off opting for one of the other engines that can be controlled using billet sumps and baffles if budget prevents the DS
Hope that helps, appreciate it probably isn't what you wanted to hear but better than sticking a rod out the block
Andy

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motorcycle_mayhem

posted on 30/10/13 at 09:01 AM Reply With Quote
I'm talking rubbish again, since everyone will tell you that a simple baffle and/or a clever trap door sump will work OK. However, disregarding this rubbish may cost you a tad.

My experience on the track is that it won't. You need to dry sump a GSXR1300. Ditto, the GSXR1000. Can't afford it, don't fit those engines.

I've had no problems baffling the older R1's (5VY), the engines have been bombproof. Incredibly and absolutely indestructible - apart from the gearbox dogs...... That's a nice cheap option for you.
The Blade engines (I've only abused the 893 and 929) were also pretty good. I've no experience of the modern rockets.

I have NO experience of the ZZR1400, though that may change in the coming months......

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Mattwillmett

posted on 30/10/13 at 12:55 PM Reply With Quote
Okay that's fair enough ahah looks like I'm gonna have to save a bit more then thanks for the input guys
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