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Ugg10

posted on 26/6/14 at 10:51 AM Reply With Quote
Zetec SE/Sigma weight

I am putting a Ford Puma 1.7 Zetec SE engine in a Ford Anglia and bought a set of scales for my engine hoist. Here's the scores on the doors (Miss Ford) -

Zetec SE 1.7 Puma Engine stripped of most ancilliaries + cast iron exhaust manifold (not down pipe) + aux belt idler and cast bracket + 1/2 full of oil + flywheel (no clutch) = 88kg
As above + starter + alternator + motorcycle throttle bodies = 98kg

I have a type 9 and a bell housing/clutch fork is on order so will update when I have weighed these to give a total installed weight.





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beaver34

posted on 26/6/14 at 01:38 PM Reply With Quote
light enough to lift in and out i know that

IIRC the 1600 is the lightest 1600 car engine ever made

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Jenko

posted on 26/6/14 at 02:49 PM Reply With Quote
Stacks up to what is on this website (usefull engine comparisson table):

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There are also some interesting stats re the various gearboxes - e.g. Ib5 is a similar size to the mtx75, but almost 20kg's lighter.

[Edited on 26/6/14 by Jenko]





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Ugg10

posted on 26/6/14 at 04:09 PM Reply With Quote
The westfield link is interesting - K Series comes out well.

Hoping to be under 150kg for the drive train wet - Engine (105kg), Clutch (2.5kg), Bell housing (5kg), Type 9 Gearbox (35kg) but will update when I weight all of the bits.

Ford Anglia was 750kg when it came out of the factory so hopefully I will be under that by the time it is all finished (ally rad, no interior etc.) - 150hp + 750kg = 200hp/ton - should be interesting enough on the road (Lotus Evora/NSX/Cayman territory - http://www.autosnout.com/Cars-Bhp-Per-Ton-List.php) .





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rdodger

posted on 26/6/14 at 05:04 PM Reply With Quote
Not sure how useful the table is. Are the comparisons like for like?

Are those engine weights dressed?

The rover 1.8 K series engine weighs about 75kg bare and 95kg dressed with both manifolds, flywheel, alternator, loom etc as fitted in the MGF/ Elise. 130kg inc pg1 gearbox.






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Jenko

posted on 26/6/14 at 06:47 PM Reply With Quote
If I recall when I was a member of the wscc..the comparison table was regarded as being pretty good...the guy who did it put a fair amount of work into getting it accurate.....I think the weights we're with some ancillaries, but like for like. A k may well be 75kgs totally naked, but in general he sigma is one of the lightest available.





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johnH20

posted on 27/6/14 at 07:08 PM Reply With Quote
I weighed my FRP complete with gearbox, all ancillaries ready to run, inlet but not exhaust manifold , mounting brackets but not insulators, including oil at 140 kg on calibrated scales. My very well informed sources tell me that an iB5 weighs 37.7 kg including oil which makes the dressed engine as defined above 102.3 kg. This seems consistent with the 98 kg for a lesser spec quoted above. For anyone interested my same source tells me an MTX 75 weighs 40 kg. If you do a very strict like for like comparison you might find a Rover K series is 1 kg lighter as a bare engine but this is probably displacement dependant.
Forgot to add my gearbox had stubshafts in to stop the oil coming out so take off another 2 kg for those!

[Edited on 27/6/14 by johnH20]

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