40inches
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| posted on 1/3/15 at 10:28 AM |
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BUGGER!
Fitting the lower intake manifold, needed to tap a 6mm thread, dropped the tap onto the work bench and it bounced off the stainless plate the vice is
bolted to, onto the engine. Straight down the only intake tract with fully open valves 
I am bonding a small magnet onto a 5mm diameter rod and going to do a bit of fishing down the plug hole
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trextr7monkey
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| posted on 1/3/15 at 10:49 AM |
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Unlucky once retrieved you will have to get a black cat!
Happy fishing
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perksy
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| posted on 1/3/15 at 10:52 AM |
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Bloody hell what are the odds on that 
Dont loose the magnet aswell or you will be up sh*t creek without a paddle
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Badger_McLetcher
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| posted on 1/3/15 at 10:59 AM |
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Crap, that's just unlucky! I find something like these to be really useful for when I drop stuff:
MAGNETIC PICK UP TOOL 2/5/8 LB PICKUP TOOL TELESCOPIC MAGNET EXTENDING MAGNET BN | eBay
OMEWARE2U
If it's difficult getting the magnet in on a rigid stick, could you bond it onto a piece of string so that it's easier to withdraw?
If disfunction is a function, then I must be some kind of genius.
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 1/3/15 at 11:34 AM |
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Motor Mech's Mantra, If it can go wrong, it will go wrong, in the worst POSSIBLE way, when it is most inconvenient, when you least need it, in
the most improbable way, ....................... An Oh Fudge moment, guaranteed almost every time.
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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CosKev3
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| posted on 1/3/15 at 12:11 PM |
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No way!
Lucky you saw it go in there, and not just thought it had disappeared somewhere on floor!!
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kj
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| posted on 1/3/15 at 12:16 PM |
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Oh shite, good luck hope its an easy fix
Think about it, think about it again and then do it.
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dave r
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| posted on 1/3/15 at 02:20 PM |
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good excuse to buy one of those usb snake cams off the bay to make sure its in there!
I'd love to give my imaginary friend a great big hug,
but this jacket makes it impossible.
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snapper
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| posted on 1/3/15 at 03:27 PM |
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I had a similar issue then the magnet on the end of the rod fell off
Double bugger
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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40inches
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| posted on 1/3/15 at 05:06 PM |
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YAY!
After about 2 hours finally got it out 
The problem was the magnet picking up the tap near the middle, eventually fiddled it along to the end with another
piece of 5mm rod, and after the 3rd attempt manages to pull it out before it fell back in.
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
No way!
Lucky you saw it go in there, and not just thought it had disappeared somewhere on floor!!
I didn't see it go in, it was after about 20 minutes searching that I realised it may have gone in, it was hanging on the edge of a valve by the
last thread, of course it fell in as soon as I touched it!
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rf900rush
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| posted on 1/3/15 at 05:17 PM |
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Isn't a hole in one mean beers all round 
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Paul Turner
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| posted on 2/3/15 at 02:27 PM |
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An acquaintance of mine (cannot call him a mate since he's an idiot) had a similar thing happen. Dropped a bolt and couldn't find it.
Simply ignored it and started engine. Turns out it had fallen into the cam belt cover (top was off while he was fiddling). Broke the belt and wrecked
a perfectly good 225 bhp Dunnell Zetec. Soon sorted with a brand new 225 bhp Dunnell Zetec.
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Irony
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| posted on 2/3/15 at 03:10 PM |
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My Dad Stripped the engine out of his diesel ford sierra (2.3L 63bhp IIRC). Sent it off to be rebored and new pistons etc. On putting it back in he
dropped a spanner onto the bore and chipped the rim. Out came the engine and it went off to engineers again. First time I saw my Dad cry.
My Dad left his brand new Harley Davidson Carb on his workbench and as I had a day off school I decided to make a bird box. Wood shavings everywhere.
He cried then as well.
On rebuilding a engine my Dad heard a weird ting ting ting ting ting on starting. Took the head off and a he'd dropped a washer in the
combustion chamber.
Makes my Dad sound a bit of a dope until you realise he spent 40 years as a breakdown engineer for the haulage industry. Claims to have rebuilt over
1000 engines. He must have done a good job on the Sierra as it went round the clock THREE times in his ownership and it was a taxi before he bought
it! Ford didn't rate it's own vehicles as the odometer maxed out at 100 000 miles
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pewe
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| posted on 2/3/15 at 03:16 PM |
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Many moons ago we were racing a mates Sports 2000.
He was setting some pretty impressive practise times until he suddenly span off for no obvious reason.
Car recovered back to the pits.
Transpires some previous numpty had the gearbox filler plug vibrate loose and disappear.
It surfaced (or words to that effect) in the gearbox where it bounced around until it locked the box solid.
Fortunately we were able to retrieve it without damage to the box and then wired it.
In fact we went on to win what was grandly called "The Irish Grand Prix" - eat your hearts out E. Jordan, F Synter & others!!
Cheers, Pewe10 
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Marcus
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| posted on 2/3/15 at 05:14 PM |
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When I rebuilt my crossflow, I poked a rag in the inlet manifold to stop crap getting in. I completely forgot about it and bolted the carb on. It
started ok but ran a bit rough, then it hit me.......
Got away with a new head gasket and was lucky not to bend the inlet valves!
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 2/3/15 at 05:49 PM |
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Whilst replacing the cams after doing the valve shims on my Benelli Tornado, I managed to drop one of the small cam sprocket bolts straight down the
timing chain tunnel After staring in disbelief for 20 seconds, with visions of stripping the entire engine down, I got out my magnet-on-a-stick
waggled it around in the timing chain tunnel and amazingly pulled the bolt out!
Lesson learned; stuff rags into every available hole on the engine, but remember to take them out again.
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40inches
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| posted on 2/3/15 at 07:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
After staring in disbelief for 20 seconds, with visions of stripping the entire engine down,
That is an indescribable feeling Removing chain driven DOHC heads is NOT a happy thought, just before the engine is ready to go in.
The Polar opposite of the feeling when you pull the magnet out of the plug hole, with the offending object attached
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kj
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| posted on 2/3/15 at 07:37 PM |
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Result
Think about it, think about it again and then do it.
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Paul Turner
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| posted on 3/3/15 at 08:58 AM |
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Not build related but a mate of mine was driving along in his BDA Westy when he heard a rattle in the exhaust which quickly stopped. At home he did a
spanner check and found one of the nuts that secure the ram pipes onto 40's missing and concluded it had come unscrewed, got sucked into the
engine and luckily was spat out with no apparent damage. Replaced his Weber nuts and springs with nylocks, I did the same a few days later.
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pewe
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| posted on 3/3/15 at 09:07 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul Turner
Not build related but a mate of mine was driving along in his BDA Westy when he heard a rattle in the exhaust which quickly stopped. At home he did a
spanner check and found one of the nuts that secure the ram pipes onto 40's missing and concluded it had come unscrewed, got sucked into the
engine and luckily was spat out with no apparent damage. Replaced his Weber nuts and springs with nylocks, I did the same a few days later.
Surely they should have been secured using Thackery washers properly gapped? 
Cheers, Pewe10
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mcerd1
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| posted on 3/3/15 at 09:21 AM |
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I had a spark plug shatter on me once on my fiesta (1.1 Valencia engine)
The big bits were stuck in the socket, but about 200 little ceramic shards fell in - couldn't afford the time to take the head off so I went
fishing with a grease covered rag on a stick for about 3 hours
Was never 100% happy, but the car did another 100k miles without any issue...
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Paul Turner
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| posted on 3/3/15 at 11:02 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by pewe
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Turner
Not build related but a mate of mine was driving along in his BDA Westy when he heard a rattle in the exhaust which quickly stopped. At home he did a
spanner check and found one of the nuts that secure the ram pipes onto 40's missing and concluded it had come unscrewed, got sucked into the
engine and luckily was spat out with no apparent damage. Replaced his Weber nuts and springs with nylocks, I did the same a few days later.
Surely they should have been secured using Thackery washers properly gapped?
Cheers, Pewe10
Suggest you read my post again.
For clarity it is not the nuts that secure the carbs to the manifold using either Thackeray washers or the cups and rubbers but the nuts that bolt the
rams pipes on.
The nuts that hold the carbs to the manifold are outside the air filters, the nuts that hold the rams on are inside. Providing air filters are fitted
there would be no way a carb to manifold nut could get inside the engine. Add to that they are big nuts and if they got in there would almost
certainly be damage.
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pewe
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| posted on 5/3/15 at 12:02 PM |
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I stand corrected.
Note to self - read posts fully before committing to reply...
Cheers, Pewe10
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02GF74
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| posted on 5/3/15 at 09:25 PM |
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Not car related but an incredible IMO recovery.
Was wiring a friends shower in the airing cupboard that is sbove the hot air heating boiler on the floor below in the kitchen. I didnt realise there
was no floor and my LED lamp dropped behind the boiler.
Due to boiler and air ducts, there was no way to get round the boiler to retrieve it so i tied a weighted hook to fish it out from above hoping that i
would catch the plastic hook on the lamp. I placed a LED cycle lamp on the boiker nd could just about see the lost lamp from the bathroom that was in
a corner 12 ft below. Luckily it had emded up vertical.
Thinking id be trying for hours, imagine my surprise when after 30 secs i managed to hook the lamp under the cap then slowly raise it.
Despite being turned on for oiver a week, the nicad took a charge.
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