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lsdweb

posted on 17/8/15 at 08:30 AM Reply With Quote
Wrong Type 9

Hi All

I have the wrong type Type 9 gearbox for my Striker - I need the longer input shaft version to work with my Caterham bellhousing and K series. I was planning on using the Type 9 as is but that doesn't now seem to be an option.

I'm trying to make up my mind on what to do! Any thoughts on the following options -

1. Swap the input shafts (I have no idea if this is possible and the last time I delved into a gearbox it wasn't a pleasant experience!).
2. Find a second hand long input shaft box (Capri , XR4?)
3. Buy an uprated box with longer shaft (an uprated box was part of a longer term plan).
4. Sell the Dave Andrews built short stroke 1400 K series and go BEC :-)

Any views appreciated!

Ta

Wyn

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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 17/8/15 at 08:40 AM Reply With Quote
I don't like number 4





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jambojeef

posted on 17/8/15 at 08:51 AM Reply With Quote
Uprated box.

That engine in a nice light 7 should be a hoot!

Geoff

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Paul Turner

posted on 17/8/15 at 08:56 AM Reply With Quote
Option 5. Speak to Steve Perks in Redditch. 01527 894232. He will sort out your existing gearbox with a long input shaft and for a small extra sum fit a better first gear. All for a fraction of the cost of a BGH or similar.
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lsdweb

posted on 17/8/15 at 09:55 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks all

I'll give Steve Perks a ring today.

Ta

Wyn

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scootz

posted on 17/8/15 at 10:06 AM Reply With Quote
5. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
6. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
7. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
8. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
9. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
10. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
11. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
12. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
13. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
14. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
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lsdweb

posted on 17/8/15 at 10:59 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
5. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
6. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
7. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
8. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
9. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
10. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
11. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
12. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
13. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
14. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
15. ...


I don't suppose you have one....

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femster87

posted on 17/8/15 at 12:36 PM Reply With Quote
I love option 4 1st dibs for £500
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lsdweb

posted on 17/8/15 at 12:38 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by femster87
I love option 4 1st dibs for £500


Add a zero on the end and it's yours!

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Ugg10

posted on 17/8/15 at 01:04 PM Reply With Quote
What about the RX8 option that the classic ford boys seem to be using at the moment, forget 1st gear and you then have a close ration 5 speed box. Just needs an adaptor plate, input shaft spline and spigot bearing are ford compatible.





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lsdweb

posted on 17/8/15 at 01:10 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ugg10
What about the RX8 option that the classic ford boys seem to be using at the moment, forget 1st gear and you then have a close ration 5 speed box. Just needs an adaptor plate, input shaft spline and spigot bearing are ford compatible.


Thanks Ugg

I did think of that but the tunnel is too small for it I believe.

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scootz

posted on 17/8/15 at 02:51 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry - no Cat box.





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adithorp

posted on 17/8/15 at 03:20 PM Reply With Quote
It'd be a shame to give up on the K-series but... "Go BEC" is always the correct answer.

I'd have sworn Scootz had one when he said that.





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snapper

posted on 17/8/15 at 05:44 PM Reply With Quote
Sierra V6 engined cars have the long input Type 9
Ratios are better
V6. Straight 4
1st 3.36. 3.6
2nd 1.81. 1.97
3rd 1.26. 1.36
4th. 1. 1
5th 0.85. 0.87





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Ugg10

posted on 17/8/15 at 06:10 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lsdweb
quote:
Originally posted by Ugg10
What about the RX8 option that the classic ford boys seem to be using at the moment, forget 1st gear and you then have a close ration 5 speed box. Just needs an adaptor plate, input shaft spline and spigot bearing are ford compatible.


Thanks Ugg

I did think of that but the tunnel is too small for it I believe.


Lots of pics and comparisons with type 9 in this thread if you need to check sizes.

http://www.turbosport.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500016





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Paul Turner

posted on 17/8/15 at 07:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by snapper
Sierra V6 engined cars have the long input Type 9
Ratios are better
V6. Straight 4
1st 3.36. 3.6
2nd 1.81. 1.97
3rd 1.26. 1.36
4th. 1. 1
5th 0.85. 0.87


Both the 4 cylinder and V6 box have a 0.82 5th as standard. The 0.85 and 0.87 are the ratio's you get form BGH, Quaiffe and others.

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matty h

posted on 17/8/15 at 08:23 PM Reply With Quote
I will hopefuly be doing this match up of engine and gearbox soon including caterham bellhousing, although I am seriously looking at rx8 box probably 5 speed as it seems to have more useable 1st gear over the more expensive 6 speed.
Can a adaptor not be machined up to fit on the end of the shaft and welded on.
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dilley

posted on 17/8/15 at 08:51 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lsdweb
quote:
Originally posted by femster87
I love option 4 1st dibs for £500


Add a zero on the end and it's yours!


And the rest!!!! S2000 with gear indicator is 8k!!!!

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lsdweb

posted on 17/8/15 at 08:55 PM Reply With Quote
quote:


And the rest!!!! S2000 with gear indicator is 8k!!!!


Shortstroke Rover K Series.......

[Edited on 17/8/15 by lsdweb]

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lsdweb

posted on 17/8/15 at 09:07 PM Reply With Quote
Matty

Is the five speed similar to the six? Does it have the same splines etc to match up with the Ford clutch?

Ta

Wyn

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femster87

posted on 17/8/15 at 09:16 PM Reply With Quote
Wyn, the input shaft can be changed, had similar done for my K series installation. Would have loved your engine bought a 1.8 few months ago.

I will change the ratio whilst you are at it though. I bought a locost with a standard type 9, I have to say after years of having either a straight cut close ratio and the 6 speed gearbox, the standard box feels really odd and sluggish

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[Edited on 17/8/15 by femster87]

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lsdweb

posted on 18/8/15 at 08:09 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks Femi

I'd love to go for a proper competition 'box but can't justify it right now!

I've just bought an RX8 gearbox to see if it'll fit in the tunnel - I don't think it will but I'll give it a go just to satisfy my curiosity!

Regards

Wyn

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COREdevelopments

posted on 21/8/15 at 09:49 PM Reply With Quote
Hey Wyn, sorry can't help with your query but out of interest how wide is your transmission tunnel? Is it similar locost book chassis? I am looking at a different gearbox due to a problem with my ae86 t50 box.

Thanks Rob






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lsdweb

posted on 27/8/15 at 10:38 AM Reply With Quote
Hi Rob

Sorry for the delay in replying - we've just got back from holidays.

The box is way too big! The tunnel on the Striker is tiny and the box is over an inch wider at a point just in front of the gear lever. I can take some measurements if you want. You're more than welcome to borrow the Mazda gearbox to try in your Luego.

Regards

Wyn

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posted on 27/8/15 at 05:28 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
5. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
6. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
7. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
8. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
9. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
10. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
11. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
12. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
13. Get a Caterham 6-Speed Box
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