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myke pocock

posted on 12/6/16 at 12:01 PM Reply With Quote
No its not!!!

It says in the title its a Lotus 7, the log book says Lotus 7 but the description says otherwise, so it aint!!!

Lotus Seven not Caterham Westfield Tiger Locost

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loggyboy

posted on 12/6/16 at 01:38 PM Reply With Quote
I dont see the issue. First sentence makes it clear, price also makes it obviously not a genuine lotus.





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myke pocock

posted on 12/6/16 at 02:29 PM Reply With Quote
Perhaps I should elaborate loggyboy. If you build a 7 style kit from Billy Smith you can call it what you want APART from Lotus 7 as that is already a recognised and specific vehicle. That is why mine is called a LoCost 7 in the V5 as that is what it is. The V5 description should be what it is. I know for a fact that the DVLA are getting very interersted in vehicles that arent what they say they are. I know the description and price in the advert recognise its not a genuine 7 and this is not as serious as some that have been flagged up on here but builders should be aware of the fact that they must call the vehicle WHAT IT IS or make their own name up, not of an existing or previous production vehicle. It may be building up issues for the future if they dont. There will be many that fall foul of the incorrect description however, Cobra, GT40, etc etc so I dont know how that will pan out in the future with DVLA. Just a gentle warning to new builders.
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morcus

posted on 12/6/16 at 04:10 PM Reply With Quote
I thought the issue with using someone elses name on the v5 to the car was that they own the name and could sue you for copy write infringement.

To play devils advocate for a moment we can't see the V5 so it might be a Lotus 7 on the log book in a way that is above board.

Its all irrelevant any way, anyone that puts not 'X' in an advert should be taken out and shot in my book.





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SteveWallace

posted on 12/6/16 at 04:25 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by morcus

Its all irrelevant any way, anyone that puts not 'X' in an advert should be taken out and shot in my book.


+1 I really hate it when people do that as it (quite deliberately) messes up the e-bay search function. My other bug is when a supplier lists a generic part as something like e.g. "M16 bolt fits BMW 3 series" and then proceeds to list it hundreds of time over inserting a different make or model of car each time.

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CosKev3

posted on 12/6/16 at 04:48 PM Reply With Quote
Could well be locost 7 on the V5,and they've just read it wrong.
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gremlin1234

posted on 12/6/16 at 04:56 PM Reply With Quote
from:
https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/


Registration number: Q258 LDV
✔ SORN


✔ MOT

Expires: 29 July 2016

If you have just purchased this vehicle, you must tax it even if it shows as taxed above. Vehicle tax cannot be transferred from keeper to keeper.

If you have taxed, made a SORN or had an MOT it can take up to 5 days for these details to be shown above.

You can check with your bank/building society to confirm your payment was successful.
Vehicle details

Vehicle make LOTUS
Date of first registration 20 August 2004
Year of manufacture 2004
Cylinder capacity (cc) 1398cc
CO₂Emissions Not available
Fuel type PETROL
Export marker No
Vehicle status SORN in place
Vehicle colour GREEN
Vehicle type approval Not available
Wheelplan 2 AXLE RIGID BODY
Revenue weight Not available

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UncleFista

posted on 12/6/16 at 10:39 PM Reply With Quote
That's just fraud then, if it's registered and sold as a Lotus..

Also you can report "keyword spamming" to eBay.





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907

posted on 13/6/16 at 07:34 AM Reply With Quote
I think that the bloke selling that car has done his utmost to describe every part of his car.

As for the advert title then to get over to a prospective buyer you may well have to describe it as "like a" or "similar to",
maybe "an engine from".

Even the Locost name gets mis-used. Single donor Mk1 Escort? Bodywork cut from the side of a Luton van?
Or a mishmash of bits BOUGHT from here there & everywhere.


I was at a local show yesterday, A Party in the Park, and all of us with old or interesting cars took them down.
Several were amused with my fishing umbrella used to keep the cockpit dry.
I lost count of the people that said to their partner/wife/son/daughter, "That's a Caterham"
One bloke even said, "This is a kit car. It would have come in a big box and you just put it together."


Paul G






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cass3958

posted on 14/6/16 at 01:14 PM Reply With Quote
Thank you

Hi guys just to let you know this is my Lotus Seven replica you are discussing and I appreciate the extra advertising but I don't appreciate the fact someone report me to E Bay for Keyword spamming and the advert was removed. It has now been altered and resubmitted.

Please let me explain the circumstances of my car and its registration.

As Gremilin1234 has already done you can check with DVLA and you will see that the car is registered as a Lotus on a Q plate but this was not of my doing. When I built the car I called it a Jotus 7 and submitted all the paperwork as such. The chassis number is also Jotus with my date of birth as the numbers but having sent all the papers off to DVLA I was surprised and delighted when the V5 returned to me and a clerk in an office at DVLA had changed the J around to an L and hence it was registered as a Lotus.

Seeing this has reminded me that I have yet to inform DVLA of the engine change from the 1400 K series to the 1800 VVC K series. Add to list of things to be done.

I have not tried to palm this car off as a genuine Lotus, it quite clearly states in the advert that it is not and describes in full the parts used to build it. The advert also clearly states that this is not a Westfield, Caterham, Tiger or locost. Although it could be classed as part Tiger and part Locost and part Lotus and part Sierra. It is a Q plate parts car after all as most modern Sevenesques are.

Now going back to the advert on EBay, could someone please explain to me how I am supposed to attract the attention of potential buyers in the description without referring to it as a "Lotus seven replica, but not a Westfield, Caterham, Tiger Locost" and so on. If I advertise it as a Jotus how many hits would I have as most people put a keyword in to the search engine which relates to the type of item they are looking for. If I was looking for a part for my car I would search under caterham and Westfield. If I was looking for a cheap track day car I would again look under Caterham or Westfield but not expect to have to pay their prices. I might though come across a Sevenesque like mine for the right money. The title on E Bay is designed to assist in the search not to describe the item for sale. I have a 1968 Jaguar S Type but when I search for Jaguar S Type all I get is the modern 1999 Jaguar S Type parts. I actually have to search under MK2 Jaguar S Type to find the correct parts for my car.

If you like the spec on the car and want to make me an offer please contact me via E bay or a PM through here. If you have nothing better to do than mank and moan please continue and I will answer any queries you have.
Rob.C.

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ian locostzx9rc2

posted on 14/6/16 at 02:58 PM Reply With Quote
I can't see a problem with the original advert if the dvla made a mistake that's a bonus good luck with the sale
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