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Banana

posted on 18/7/16 at 12:38 PM Reply With Quote
Opinions please - Im still looking :)

Hi all,

summers going quick, and still haven't got my weekend/trackday toy..

Thoughts on the following would be great..

Tiger Avon Kit Car......


locost 7


thanks in advance

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Mash

posted on 18/7/16 at 01:26 PM Reply With Quote
I was in that boat earlier in the year Mate, so I feel your pain.

I'm still a relative beginner at this, but I was warned (after nearly lumbering myself with a real disaster) to get LOADS of pictures of the chassis/welding at the very least, and preferably look at the car first. Having done all of that, I still manage to drag my trailer over 200 miles to collect another heap of junk, not buy it, and drag the trailer all the way home empty

The tiger is a better price, and has a Pinto which is what I have now, and mine seems to go well. BUT, no pictures showing any detail so you defo need more, AND, and I quote:

"The car carries the registration plate of the donor car and is NOT on a Q PLATE."

Didn't think that was possible, so check that it is correctly registered, although I'm a beginner as I said so I could be wrong.

Locost again doesn't show much detail, so more photos/look at it. I don't like clamshell wings personally, and if you're going to do track days or fast stuff, then you'll probably end up swapping them which will leave some unsightly holes. Plus if the 1300 "expired", I wonder if the rest of the car has been hammered too?

No doubt someone with much more knowledge and experience will be long soon..........

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andrew.carwithen

posted on 18/7/16 at 03:08 PM Reply With Quote
I'd say the Tiger Avon is the better of the two.
Bear in mind that the Avon is pretty small by 'seven type replica standards' and is nearer to a Caterham in size.
However, I'm 6ft tall and fitted in mine just fine (although I had a floor mounted pedals which helped significantly for leg room.)
As regards the registration, a search on Askmid has it listed as a Tiger so it may well be that the seller meant it has a reg no. age- related to that of the original donor rather than the donor's number itself!
Seek clarification from the seller that it has been SVA'd and correctly registered on the V5c as a Tiger Avon.

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ian locostzx9rc2

posted on 18/7/16 at 03:10 PM Reply With Quote
The Avon is the better car in my eyes a bit basic but a tidy build not an issue as your bound to upgrade it pinto s are a good strong basic engine for your first car if you could get it for less than 4 k it would be a pretty good buy moe pictures of engine bay etc .. Would be good
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Banana

posted on 18/7/16 at 03:21 PM Reply With Quote
I;ve texted the Tiger Avon seller and asked for closer pics of the car.

I get the impression its a well done kit, but will obviously have to view.

Am i right in thinking this should weight 600kg (with engine) ?

Good point about the size - im a lanky git at 6,3ft, so it does limit my options.

Hey Mash - how you finding that Pinto engine? Ive had my heart set on a Zetec, but i guess the Pinto is well proven and still puts out some decent bhp when setup well..

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Norfolkluegojnr

posted on 18/7/16 at 03:31 PM Reply With Quote
Tiger looks good to me - a good basis for making it your own. Locost looks a bit rough.

Only advice from me would be to go and look at them; its amazing how pictures can flatter a car, and you want to be 100% sure you know what you're buying.

Pintos are fine, and can make big power if you pour your wallet in, but they are heavy. Pinto to Zetec swap is not the easiest, you are as well to go for Duratec.

[Edited on 18/7/16 by Norfolkluegojnr]

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Mash

posted on 19/7/16 at 10:26 AM Reply With Quote
Yes, I agree with everything that has been said about the Pinto. It's a good engine, and you can get some good power out of it, but it will cost you and it is pretty heavy. You will get excellent performance from a standard Duratec, and it's lighter too.

Mine is fine, but it's a standard engine, and my long term plan will be a Duratec.

ETA Just checked on the DVLA web site and it is correctly registered as a Tiger. Bad news though is that he has ended the auction for some reason....

E again TA Of course if you go down the Duratec route then igniton/fuelling etc., becomes far more complicated.......

[Edited on 19/7/16 by Mash]

[Edited on 19/7/16 by Mash]

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wylliezx9r

posted on 19/7/16 at 10:39 AM Reply With Quote
Op - you have u2u





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DJT

posted on 19/7/16 at 01:29 PM Reply With Quote
Yes, around 600kg is about right. With a Zetec in at least, maybe a little more with a Pinto.





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DJT

posted on 19/7/16 at 01:32 PM Reply With Quote
Being tall like me (I'm 6' 1", you'll struggle with the top of screen being right in your lline of sight. The Mk2 bodywork (one with boot lid) has a raised screen mount on the scuttle to help, but that looks like Mk1. I went aerosreen anyway, so dodged that issue.





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DJT

posted on 19/7/16 at 01:34 PM Reply With Quote
If possible, I would take an kit owner/builder along to view any prospective purchases.





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Banana

posted on 20/7/16 at 01:09 PM Reply With Quote
i don't know any tame Kit car owners to drag along.
Seems like the Tiger has gone anyway.

Any meets in or around Suffolk i could pop along to?

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Schrodinger

posted on 20/7/16 at 01:13 PM Reply With Quote
have a look on the Tiger Owners Club website and EATOC section
http://www.tigerownersclub.co.uk/forum.html





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DJT

posted on 20/7/16 at 01:17 PM Reply With Quote
Or go to one of their open days in the Summer (if they still have them).





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Norfolkluegojnr

posted on 20/7/16 at 01:23 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Banana
i don't know any tame Kit car owners to drag along.
Seems like the Tiger has gone anyway.

Any meets in or around Suffolk i could pop along to?



I'm just over the border north of Diss if you need any help Where abouts are you in Suffolk?

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Banana

posted on 22/7/16 at 10:10 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks

Im near Long Melford.

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40inches

posted on 22/7/16 at 01:49 PM Reply With Quote
This looks like a well built Tiger. http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=205021
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Madinventions

posted on 22/7/16 at 05:22 PM Reply With Quote
This is a really good club which is very active and attracts a wide range of both cars and owners!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk/
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Banana

posted on 23/7/16 at 09:32 PM Reply With Quote
thanks for the input all.

40 inches - ive seen that one, thanks.
Might try and arrange a viewing.

Has you guys got any input or opinions on this Cat
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/kit-cars/tiger/tiger-suepr-six------2004/5955050?v=c

Any problems specific to these i should look for? I notice it is a Q plate.

thanks

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Banana

posted on 23/7/16 at 09:50 PM Reply With Quote
Also i've noticed this one has been on ebay a long time.. Makes me wonder why its not selling..


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kingster996

posted on 23/7/16 at 09:52 PM Reply With Quote
Don't worry about Q plate. It just means the builder didn't lie his arse off and forge receipts when he claimed to use new parts during the build. Very few kits are built with genuine new parts! Q plates in the kit world are perfectly acceptable and actually advantageous when it comes to mot time with emissions.






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Banana

posted on 24/7/16 at 08:44 AM Reply With Quote
Indeed. No reflection of build quality. I get the impression some people are a bit snobby about a Q plate though.

Doesn't bother me.


Still looking everybody. Money burning a hole in my pocket


Please post anything you may come across. Locost/Tiger price range.

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ianhurley20

posted on 24/7/16 at 04:04 PM Reply With Quote
The next Tiger open day is 30th July at the factory in Wisbech. A friend of mine is going and I am tagging along. I would suggest you try several Tigers out for size, many are very tiny. There are few that I can get into and I also have problems with the foot space being too small for my size 10's. I went to the National Kitcar show a couple of years ago with a tape measure and looked at all the cars there with a view on me fitting in with comfort. I woild have liked the GBS Zero wide-body or a Westfield but settled on a Haynes Roadster which is almost at IVA. Good luck.





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Banana

posted on 24/7/16 at 07:57 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks so much for that info - Wisbech isnt too far from me.

Funnily enough this has just reappeared on ebay.
Seems worth a look.


thanks

[Edited on 24/7/16 by Banana]

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AvonJas

posted on 30/7/16 at 05:49 PM Reply With Quote
Seems to be a cheap Avon on eBay, orange one in Essex. Needs some work but the price seems good. Just to add, I can only view on my phone so it might be pants.
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