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Jon Ison

posted on 24/10/17 at 07:14 AM Reply With Quote
How old school is the Redtop?

Many moons ago when I was around car engines the redtop was the engine of choice, after years (decades) of been around bike engines I'm considering a move back to the dark side.

Is the redtop still a viable option to make 200 plus or is it something else these days, duratec?

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Benzo

posted on 24/10/17 at 07:41 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Jon Ison
Many moons ago when I was around car engines the redtop was the engine of choice, after years (decades) of been around bike engines I'm considering a move back to the dark side.

Is the redtop still a viable option to make 200 plus or is it something else these days, duratec?


Duratec forsure, widely available & alloy block makes them much more desirable in my book.

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ian locostzx9rc2

posted on 24/10/17 at 07:44 AM Reply With Quote
More modern engines are the way to go as said parts are ready available .
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froggy

posted on 24/10/17 at 07:56 AM Reply With Quote
They’re in the same league as the yb ford now . Decades of hard use means most have had multiple re builds and on their last grind if anything goes tits up .





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nick205

posted on 24/10/17 at 08:52 AM Reply With Quote
I'd have thought a Duratec has to be the way to go these days. Engines and parts will be more more readily available.
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jossey

posted on 24/10/17 at 09:50 AM Reply With Quote
The issue with redtop. Is the part costs to get good power and the age. Also the lies people tell when selling them like recent rebuild and low miles etc.

My next move is something that is built for the power rather than old junk.

Blacktop on throttle bodies will do 190hp and you can still by them new.

EcoBoost is a great engine and the 2.0 is 200 standard

Even duratec is a good option but but new ones are not as cheap.

EcoBoost 1.6 also does 180hp and if they die it costs £500 to replace with a low miles engine a few years old.





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TimC

posted on 24/10/17 at 10:17 AM Reply With Quote
Road, Track or Race Jon?






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sdh2903

posted on 24/10/17 at 10:31 AM Reply With Quote
Budget aswell? 2.0 ecoboost are a cracking engine. 252bhp and shed loads of torque. You'll be looking at 4-5k all installed though.
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Nickp

posted on 24/10/17 at 07:46 PM Reply With Quote
You talking N/A to fit into a certain sprint class Jon?
Doubt the redtop would be the best / value for money option these days.

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perksy

posted on 24/10/17 at 07:48 PM Reply With Quote
Afraid I'm biased as I love the red top

But have to say finding a good un-abused one these days is getting a lot harder
mine was 220 brake but they aren't cheap to tune

Power to weight of the Duratech makes it an attractive option...

What about the Honda S2000 though ??

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Nickp

posted on 24/10/17 at 08:19 PM Reply With Quote
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What about the Honda S2000 though ??


Yeah I would've thought this'd be a better starting point, 240bhp out of the box.

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sdh2903

posted on 24/10/17 at 08:28 PM Reply With Quote
Problem with the f20c is they are very pricey now. Even for a 100k+ one they are £2-3k. When i was looking for one a decent low miler was 4k+. Then there's ecu, exhaust manifold and a body deep enough to fit it. For comparison i picked up an 18 month old 2.0 ecoboost with 9k on it with all ancilliaries for 1800.

If Its N.a. required id go duratec. Set of cams and bodies and you'll be up over 200bhp easy.

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trextr7monkey

posted on 24/10/17 at 09:03 PM Reply With Quote
Got a mate who was Vauxhall trained and he has a red top in his mk 2 escort and the Opel Mantas that he rebuilds so yes old Sokol and yes he is a bit biased!





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Benzo

posted on 25/10/17 at 01:14 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Nickp
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What about the Honda S2000 though ??


Yeah I would've thought this'd be a better starting point, 240bhp out of the box.


Heavy and Very Tall engine.

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steve m

posted on 25/10/17 at 02:15 PM Reply With Quote
Old school is running a xflow. as I do, not a redtop

steve





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trextr7monkey

posted on 25/10/17 at 06:07 PM Reply With Quote
That’s funny our jeep in the avatar runs a 1600 xflow through a sport box “god’s own engine “ as they used to call it and we would say the red top was new technology in relative terms, but you have to keep up with the terminology if not the times!!!
Atb
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Angel Acevedo

posted on 26/10/17 at 02:47 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by steve m
Old school is running a xflow. as I do, not a redtop

steve


What´s a Pinto then??






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steve m

posted on 26/10/17 at 04:58 PM Reply With Quote
The Ford pinto engine first came out in 1970

The Ford crossflow first came out in 1967 so is three years older hence the old school technology





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