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big_wasa

posted on 2/9/18 at 03:15 PM Reply With Quote
Mk Indy engine position info wanted.

Hi I am l about to start my winter upgrades, the pinto is out and will be replaced with a Zetec.

Question is, anyone got any pictures of a Zetec in an early Indy chassis ? The engine looks to far forward to me and I donít see how I can get it further back due to the bell housing fouling the chassis. I am wondering how the taller Zetec will fit under the nose.
Any info and pictures would be great, cheers.


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CosKev3

posted on 2/9/18 at 05:24 PM Reply With Quote
Is a zetec taller?
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big_wasa

posted on 2/9/18 at 05:39 PM Reply With Quote
From memory, about an inch but I will check it tomorrow.
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SJ

posted on 2/9/18 at 07:54 PM Reply With Quote
I have a zetec in a 2006 chassis. Would pics of that help?
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posted on 2/9/18 at 09:36 PM Reply With Quote
When I did my pinto to Zetec upgrade, I bolted the engine to the gearbox and used the engine mounts from MK and lined them up. From memory we moved the chassis plates just slightly to accommodate the new mounts. All in all, done in an afternoon.
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big_wasa

posted on 3/9/18 at 07:29 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SJ
I have a zetec in a 2006 chassis. Would pics of that help?


It sure would

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big_wasa

posted on 3/9/18 at 07:34 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Barkalarr
When I did my pinto to Zetec upgrade, I bolted the engine to the gearbox and used the engine mounts from MK and lined them up. From memory we moved the chassis plates just slightly to accommodate the new mounts. All in all, done in an afternoon.


I am just pondering the position at the moment.
Current price is £80 + p&p I think I will make some if I can find some 40mm box.

[Edited on 3/9/18 by big_wasa]

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SJ

posted on 3/9/18 at 08:33 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
quote:
Originally posted by SJ
I have a zetec in a 2006 chassis. Would pics of that help?


It sure would



I'll take a couple of pics today

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nick205

posted on 3/9/18 at 09:04 AM Reply With Quote
A while since I built (and sold) my MK Indy now - started building it in 2003.

2.0 Pinto + Type 9 gearbox + MK supplied enging mounts.

From memory the Type 9 bell housing was pretty close to the chassis footwells. To have move the engine + gearbox back I'm pretty sure you'd have had to modify the footwells to allow clearance and modify the chassis engine mount points to reposition the engine mounts.

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Bluemoon

posted on 3/9/18 at 10:36 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by nick205
A while since I built (and sold) my MK Indy now - started building it in 2003.

2.0 Pinto + Type 9 gearbox + MK supplied enging mounts.

From memory the Type 9 bell housing was pretty close to the chassis footwells. To have move the engine + gearbox back I'm pretty sure you'd have had to modify the footwells to allow clearance and modify the chassis engine mount points to reposition the engine mounts.


Yes... That's as mine, the bell-housing starter motor is the limiting factor, need some running clearance, i.e. around 10/20mm..

Dan

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ragindave

posted on 3/9/18 at 11:09 AM Reply With Quote
Mkindy Zetec

You could always remove the starter bulge this what you do on a Westfield.

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DavidW

posted on 3/9/18 at 11:14 AM Reply With Quote
I have a Zetec with type 9 in an early Indy chassis that was originally built for a pinto.

The gearbox is in the the same place and its won't go any further back. I fabricated the engine mounts by modifying the supplied pinto units. The intake side meets the pinto chassis plate and the exhaust side needed a new plate on the chassis.

Height of the engine is tight so I adjusted height to just clear under the nosecone. After catching the original Escort sump I ended up with Raceline alloy sump so ground clearance is fine.

I fitted a remote oil filter setup to allow proper oil filter whilst not clashing with the steering column.

I'll try to take some photos for you if I get home at a decent time.

David

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Tonesta

posted on 3/9/18 at 02:54 PM Reply With Quote
Hi big wasa
To get mine further back in my hrs I had to remove a section from the starter motor bulge. I just then fabricated an infill section and welded in.

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big_wasa

posted on 4/9/18 at 10:28 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the info guys I just needed to here that the Zetec will go in under the body work.

I had looked at cutting the starter bulge but then there are other obstructions. Nothing that canít be chopped off and moved.

Iíve got a few differant gearboxes to have a look at.

The Mt75 will go back nearly 3Ē just chopping off a few casting lugs, itís lighter than a t9, has the electronic speed sensor built in, I have a new Westfield ďkitĒ with prop, bearing and clutch so no added expense, has a higher torque ratting. On the down side it has a crap first gear ratio and is even harder to replace than a t9.

Iíve got an Rx8 5spd but that will need an adapter, new prop, and a hydraulic clutch conversion and itís bigger and heavier than both the above.

Anyway no looking back now.


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40inches

posted on 4/9/18 at 11:02 AM Reply With Quote
I widened the tunnel, been ok for my size 9 feet, may be a bit tight for size 12's
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big_wasa

posted on 4/9/18 at 11:42 AM Reply With Quote
12ís blah mines a 13
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40inches

posted on 4/9/18 at 12:54 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by big_wasa
12ís blah mines a 13

Look who's bragging

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big_wasa

posted on 4/9/18 at 05:47 PM Reply With Quote
I would be interested in your hydraulic clutch conversion. I take it itís hydraulic anyway ?
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SJ

posted on 6/9/18 at 06:57 AM Reply With Quote
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quote:
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I have a zetec in a 2006 chassis. Would pics of that help?


It sure would



Just put some pics in my archive. Not that easy to see the clearance - hope it helps.

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big_wasa

posted on 6/9/18 at 07:39 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks, that's great I can visualise it under the nose.
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