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Slater

posted on 7/12/18 at 05:03 PM Reply With Quote
Bloodhound land speed record project axed

Sad news for the Bloodhound project, see link below, I've been following this and was hopeful they would get down to South Africa next year and build up to their 1,000 mph target.

Surely some British entrepreneur has a spare 250,000 to buy the project and a few million to fund it to completion? Richard Branson??

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It's a fascinating engineering project, website here:

http://www.bloodhoundssc.com/





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Ugg10

posted on 7/12/18 at 08:24 PM Reply With Quote
What a shame. One interesting fact was that they were using an Indy car engine just to run the fuel pump for the Typhoon jet engine iirc.





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bi22le

posted on 7/12/18 at 08:27 PM Reply With Quote
They have been at it for years and not managed much.

Space X has been going less time. . .

I can't help but think there are some fundamental problems with the design, project team or project management.

All they managed to achieve is 17mph slower than a P1. Which was probably also developed in less time and money. . . .





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perksy

posted on 7/12/18 at 09:42 PM Reply With Quote
Sad News for all those involved but have to say in these financially troubled times it was fairly inevitable as costs seemed to be escalating

Wonder what will happen to the staff involved and also if the bill has been paid for the strip of land in Africa that was cleared ready for the first run?

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Sam_68

posted on 8/12/18 at 08:54 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ugg10
One interesting fact was that they were using an Indy car engine just to run the fuel pump for the Typhoon jet engine iirc.

It ended up being a supercharged Jaguar V8, and it was to run the fuel pump for the rocket, not the Typhoon jet engine.

...and it was necessary because they lacked the know-how to design a throttleable HTP-driven turbopump, which is by far the more elegant (and lighter) solution in engineering terms, and which we were doing on rocket engines back in the 1950's).

The whole thing was surprisingly crude, in some respects

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rf900rush

posted on 8/12/18 at 10:57 AM Reply With Quote
I was lucky enough to see ThrustSSC in the hanger.

What I also saw was roughly 30 people and a couple of engineers working.

Can't imagine what the ratio of Engineer to the rest of the team is.

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slingshot2000

posted on 8/12/18 at 02:59 PM Reply With Quote
I was "unlucky" enough to see Thrust SSC, day after day for months, when it was sadly parked up on a low loader at Gaydon Services on the M40 after it had achieved it's record breaking run.

[Edited on 8/12/18 by slingshot2000]

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tweek

posted on 10/12/18 at 02:44 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
They have been at it for years and not managed much.

Space X has been going less time. . .

I can't help but think there are some fundamental problems with the design, project team or project management.

All they managed to achieve is 17mph slower than a P1. Which was probably also developed in less time and money. . . .


Bit harsh, spacex is funded by a billionaire, these guys were working off sponsorship and charitable donations...





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Badger_McLetcher

posted on 10/12/18 at 07:02 PM Reply With Quote
To be honest I'm not surprised; no one's going to throw money at a vanity project like that when they can't even be sure they'll be in business this time next year.





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slingshot2000

posted on 10/12/18 at 08:33 PM Reply With Quote
It isn't a business, it is a Land Speed Record attempt. They have not been raising money via any business model,only charity and sponsorship.
They are doing it for the challenge, like Hilary did climbing Everest. No-one will make money from this !

But;
Imagine if this is successful how much good it could do for the future of British engineering, and how much they could make from
giving talks to new engineers.

I once attended a talk by Richard Noble, I wish I had his enthusiasm for speed and life !

[Edited on 10/12/18 by slingshot2000]

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02GF74

posted on 10/12/18 at 09:54 PM Reply With Quote
People just ain't interested. The public probably spend more texting for those idiots on strictly than donating to the project. Probably no surprise given how much air time the two receive. BBC could have done a short series with Giles Martin and David Attenborough to raise awareness.





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slingshot2000

posted on 10/12/18 at 10:20 PM Reply With Quote
Exactly ! ^^^^

Years ago LSR's were something the British public could publicise around the world, we were proud to hold them and others tried to emulate us. Now all we are interested in is un-known celebrities doing some advertising for stuff we don't need.

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Sam_68

posted on 11/12/18 at 08:38 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by slingshot2000No-one will make money from this !

Actually, if you look at the company's annual returns (which are public documents), they imply that Noble and Green have both been drawing 6-figure salaries from the project, paid for from those donations.

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Mr Whippy

posted on 12/12/18 at 12:56 PM Reply With Quote
whole thing sounded a farce and the pace of development spectacular slow

So they build a 1000mph car...then what

Space X sticks 4 wheels on to a booster and triples their record

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Badger_McLetcher

posted on 12/12/18 at 07:45 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slingshot2000
It isn't a business, it is a Land Speed Record attempt. They have not been raising money via any business model,only charity and sponsorship.
They are doing it for the challenge, like Hilary did climbing Everest. No-one will make money from this !

But;
Imagine if this is successful how much good it could do for the future of British engineering, and how much they could make from
giving talks to new engineers.


[Edited on 10/12/18 by slingshot2000]


Apologies for the misunderstanding; I meant that the donors don't know whether they themselves would be in business this time next year, and therefore are not willing to throw money at something they'd never see a return on.

To be honest it's taken too long; the early enthusiasm waned and the costs spiralled. The public was never really engaged; I think the common view is that land speed records are a bit passe when you see rockets launching payloads into orbit and then successfully landing vertically on a small launchpad. Or you've got people queing up for food banks. Or the omnishambles that is Brexit.

If it had launched a few years earlier it may have been OK, but the state the country is at the moment it's almost a miracle it lasted this long.





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Benzine

posted on 12/12/18 at 10:56 PM Reply With Quote
Sad about Bloodhound. Lift your spirits with this documentary:


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gremlin1234

posted on 17/12/18 at 06:43 PM Reply With Quote
lets be hopeful

Bloodhound supersonic car project saved (17dec18)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-46591860

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sdh2903

posted on 17/12/18 at 07:34 PM Reply With Quote
I genuinely don't see the point. Now don't get me wrong I love the whole explorer/pioneer spirit. I love reading about and watching stuff on Bonneville, Donald campbell etc. But this is so irrelevant. It's just willy waving. What are we going to learn about going above the last record?

Petrol engines are let's face it dying. Surely there are more interesting and relevant engineering projects to take on over plonking a typhoon engine into a car.

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perksy

posted on 17/12/18 at 09:30 PM Reply With Quote
I see today in the news that the project has been bought by an "experienced automotive industry businessman" from up North

Lets see what happens next...

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jeffw

posted on 18/12/18 at 03:21 PM Reply With Quote
I'm really pleased that it has been saved and I look forward to them breaking the 1000MPH barrier.
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peter030371

posted on 18/12/18 at 04:22 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by sdh2903
I genuinely don't see the point. Now don't get me wrong I love the whole explorer/pioneer spirit. I love reading about and watching stuff on Bonneville, Donald campbell etc. But this is so irrelevant. It's just willy waving. What are we going to learn about going above the last record?

Petrol engines are let's face it dying. Surely there are more interesting and relevant engineering projects to take on over plonking a typhoon engine into a car.


lol, interesting comment on a forum like this....and so mankind progresses no more, mark this day in history

Its an engineering challenge not just willy waving (but the competition to be the first at 1000mph is a hell of a motivator for those involved). The dynamics of a land based vehicle (not a plane or space craft) at these speeds is just unknown so they are braking new ground with ever run that is 1mph faster than the last record. Better still its an open plan project (well it was, new owner might have other ideas) so nothing to hide and what they learn will no doubt be shared for general knowledge improvement of all.

But then each to his own, although on this forum I should think most members appreciate what it is

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sdh2903

posted on 18/12/18 at 04:35 PM Reply With Quote
No I can fully appreciate what it is. But again what are we going to learn really? How tyres work at 800mph? The fuel consumption of a typhoon engine at sea level? What is going to come from this to progress the automotive industry? I can't honestly think of anything? But it's the guys money so he obviously fancies their chances and can see an opportunity.
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peter030371

posted on 18/12/18 at 04:50 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by sdh2903
No I can fully appreciate what it is. But again what are we going to learn really? How tyres work at 800mph? The fuel consumption of a typhoon engine at sea level? What is going to come from this to progress the automotive industry? I can't honestly think of anything? But it's the guys money so he obviously fancies their chances and can see an opportunity.


First thing to learn, it doesn't have tyres. Second the typhoon engine is only to get the car to circa 650mph. Third, so much more to learn if one reads about it and takes an interest

However, as I said each to there own

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sdh2903

posted on 18/12/18 at 05:00 PM Reply With Quote
Ok enlighten me. What are we going to learn that's useful and will help us progress in other areas of engineering?
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peter030371

posted on 18/12/18 at 05:04 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by sdh2903
Ok enlighten me. What are we going to learn that's useful and will help us progress in other areas of engineering? [/quote

I give up! Let us go back to living in caves rather than explore the limits of what is possible

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