flak monkey
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Front Indicators...
Spotted these on Ebay as a bargain...they any good?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10534&item=7972236888&rd=1
Hope someone can tell me pretty quick!
David 
[Edited on 19/5/05 by flak monkey]
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 13/5/05 at 09:05 AM |
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They'll work fine, but they won't reach far enough to pass the "400mm from the outside edge" rule.
You'll have to put them on extenders somehow.
David
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flak monkey
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| posted on 13/5/05 at 09:10 AM |
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Cheers David
Any idea how long the stems need to be?
Theres these also:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9946&item=7973925768&rd=1
They have longer stems (95mm) and look a bit easier to extend if need be.
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 13/5/05 at 09:24 AM |
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The second lot are quite expensive - I only paid around £9 or £10 in my local m/cycle shop.
Here are mine before I went to the SVA
They are the long-stem bendy rubber type, mounted on lumps of nylon that I'd turned up in the lathe. These only just met the
regulations, by about 5mm or so.
David
[Edited on 13/5/05 by David Jenkins]
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indykid
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| posted on 13/5/05 at 09:24 AM |
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both will need extending, but it's not rocket science.
the first ones look a bit garish, but are cheap. i'd personally go for the second ones.
just depends how locost you're going
tom
the second ones have a threaded part, so will be much easier to temporarily extend.
[Edited on 13/5/05 by indykid]
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indykid
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| posted on 13/5/05 at 09:29 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
The second lot are quite expensive - I only paid around £9 or £10 in my local m/cycle shop.
David
[Edited on 13/5/05 by David Jenkins]
they're £9.75. seems cheap enough. 
tom
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 13/5/05 at 09:36 AM |
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Plus £1.50 postage...
DJ
[Edited on 13/5/05 by David Jenkins]
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flak monkey
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| posted on 13/5/05 at 10:11 AM |
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All sorted, cheers chaps . I liked the look of those second ones, rather than the normal square type that people like premier wiring sell. They
should arrive in the next few days and i will see what they are like. £11.25 seemed reasonable to me since they are brand new etc. They look simple to
extend as well with a round stem and central bolt. I should be able to turn something out of either stainless or black nylon.
Cheers,
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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DarrenW
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| posted on 13/5/05 at 10:58 AM |
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Ive opted for the cycle wing mounted ones. Got a pair with CF look shells, very smart and very visible. £15 iirc per pair from guess where?? (mac1 -
where all my parts seem to come from!)
Only tricky bit is bonding the wires to underneath nice and tight (Wurth bond and seal moment coming on again i feel).
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flak monkey
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| posted on 19/5/05 at 08:43 PM |
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The result of a tenner. They are very nice and well constructed. Think they look a lot nicer than the square ones everyone uses.
David 
Sera
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Marcus
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| posted on 19/5/05 at 08:49 PM |
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Noticed they are rated at 10W. Mr SVA didn't like mine as they are not equivalent light intensity as the rear ones!
Either change rears for 10W or fronts for 21W. (or was I just unlucky?)
Marcus
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 20/5/05 at 07:11 AM |
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Mine use whatever is normally used in bike indicators (I didn't change them) and they are 'king bright! Probably brighter than the 21W
landie ones at the back...
David
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mad4x4
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| posted on 20/5/05 at 12:32 PM |
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This 400mm rule for the indicators on the front - I can't see a reference to it. Ony the Side light and dipped have to 400mm
in.
Scot's do it better in Kilts.
MK INDY's Don't Self Centre Regardless of MK Setting !
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clbarclay
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| posted on 20/5/05 at 12:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mad4x4
This 400mm rule for the indicators on the front - I can't see a reference to it. Ony the Side light and dipped have to 400mm
in.
In my SVA maual the relevant dimesnions are in annex 9.1 (the first annex under lighting), and gives max distance from sides, max height and min
height.
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Peteff
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| posted on 20/5/05 at 01:02 PM |
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Draft SVA section 9.1. (pg 94)
Max distance in 400mm separation 500mm unless vehicle is less than 1400mm wide them min 400mm separation. max height 1500mm or 2300mm if impracticable
min height 350mm.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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DarrenW
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| posted on 20/5/05 at 01:41 PM |
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Side of vehicle on a se7en is the widest point - usually the rear arches.
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Steve @ sVc
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| posted on 21/5/05 at 09:12 AM |
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This seems - again to be where "E" marked parts for bikes are tested to a different spec. to cars.
They "should" fail SVA, but will most probably be ok for Mot.
Some flasher units may flash too quickly with a smaller load than they were designed for.
We have similar problems with "E" marked headlights that dip vertically for a bike, rather than to the left.
Steve @ sVc
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mad4x4
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| posted on 31/5/05 at 05:26 PM |
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Looking at this image :
I would say that this says the side light is 400mm in from the side but the indicators have to be seperated by 500mm and at least 350mm above the
ground. NOT 400mm in from the side!!!! as above!!!!
Scot's do it better in Kilts.
MK INDY's Don't Self Centre Regardless of MK Setting !
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flak monkey
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| posted on 31/5/05 at 05:35 PM |
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So would I.... it all comes down to interpretation I guess. That diagram just happens to show the indicators and sidelights aligned...Well IMO.
Sera
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mad4x4
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| posted on 1/6/05 at 08:47 AM |
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I would interperate that diagram as the line for the side lights is extended past the indicator bulb to show the measurement to the widest part of the
vehicle and not to include the indicator.
As Flak Monkey says it all interpertation.
Further to this - If you look at the ford focus (I know type approved) it's indicators are approximtely 450mm in from the spats(edge of wheel
arch). On the inside of the headlamp cluster.
Only had time for a very quick measure as it was a neighbours car. Didn;t get a chance to measure the spacing.
[Edited on 1/606/05 by mad4x4]
Scot's do it better in Kilts.
MK INDY's Don't Self Centre Regardless of MK Setting !
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Hellfire
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| posted on 3/6/05 at 12:39 AM |
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The problem with those indicators is replacing the bulbs... first - you can't get the damned things out, and second you cant get replacement
bulbs! Therefore - a replacement bulb will cost you £10... thank you kind sir!!!
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flak monkey
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| posted on 3/6/05 at 06:52 AM |
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You can indeed get the bulbs out, and they are just standard bayonet fitting bulbs.... I checked that (See pic)
David
 
Rescued attachment bulb.jpg
Sera
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