RichieC
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| posted on 2/1/06 at 07:20 PM |
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Land Rover Rear Lights/Indicators
Anyone have any photos?
Just wondering how these look on a kit. Toying with the idea providing they dont look too "agricultural". Does silicone in the screw
holes keep mr sva happy or is the sharp radius of the hole a complete no-no?
Thanks
Richie
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rayward
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| posted on 2/1/06 at 07:22 PM |
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Had them on myold car...
 
car4
Ray
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RichieC
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| posted on 2/1/06 at 07:24 PM |
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Thanks Ray, they look pretty smart
Anyone any advice re SVA?
Just realised the Land Rover rear fog doesnt match. Would there be anything to stop you using another stop/tail with the correct wattage bulb or are
fog lamp lenses different (sorry for my ignorance)
Also, where can you get SVA proof reflectors which arent huge
Rgds
Rich
[Edited on 2/1/06 by RichieC]
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andyharding
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| posted on 2/1/06 at 08:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RichieC
Thanks Ray, they look pretty smart
Anyone any advice re SVA?
Just realised the Land Rover rear fog doesnt match. Would there be anything to stop you using another stop/tail with the correct wattage bulb or are
fog lamp lenses different (sorry for my ignorance)
Also, where can you get SVA proof reflectors which arent huge
Rgds
Rich
[Edited on 2/1/06 by RichieC]
Fog needs a reflector. Max brightness of a brake lamp is less than the min brightness of a fog lamp.
Are you a Mac user or a retard?
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RichieC
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| posted on 2/1/06 at 08:21 PM |
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Bummer for the reflector
Cheers
Rich
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andyharding
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| posted on 2/1/06 at 09:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RichieC
Bummer for the reflector
Cheers
Rich
Thinking about it might be wrong on the reflector. LED lamps don't have them.
Are you a Mac user or a retard?
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RichieC
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| posted on 2/1/06 at 09:02 PM |
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It was news to me, but Ive no experience of it.
The brightness shouldnt really be an issue I wouldnt have thought.
Thanks
Rich
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wilkingj
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| posted on 2/1/06 at 10:57 PM |
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Land Rover Lights:
http://www.paddockspares.com
http://www.paddockspares.com/shop/pages/series/electrics.htm
Indicators £2:89.
They also do a separate reflector for £1.45. Its about 3" x 1.5" I got them for my Lightweight Landy. Part No XFF100070
I dont know if they are SVA compliant. However, I dont think the reflector has to be part of the light unit. Otherwise, separate indicators / brake /
side lights would not be legal either.
Check the SVA Manual first.
Cheap as chips
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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RichieC
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| posted on 2/1/06 at 10:59 PM |
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Thanks, indeed cheap as chips.
There is no requirement for the reflectors to be co located with the rear lights, their requirements are in the SVA manual but nothing tricky.
Thanks
Rich
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caber
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| posted on 2/1/06 at 11:37 PM |
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Land rover side lights are as cheap because youhave to replace them on a rather too frequent basis!. They leak the lamps corrode into the sockets the
screws corrode into the backplate so basically if one goes out you are as well replacing the whole thing rather than the bulb! The Paddocks ones are
not quite the same pattern as the ones in the photo they are series type which is a bit more pointy.
They will look OK and may last a bit longer if you don't take the 7 out in the rain:-)
Caber
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akumabito
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| posted on 3/1/06 at 12:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by caber
Land rover side lights are as cheap because youhave to replace them on a rather too frequent basis!. They leak the lamps corrode into the sockets the
screws corrode into the backplate so basically if one goes out you are as well replacing the whole thing rather than the bulb! The Paddocks ones are
not quite the same pattern as the ones in the photo they are series type which is a bit more pointy.
They will look OK and may last a bit longer if you don't take the 7 out in the rain:-)
Caber
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We own a 1967 Land Rover Series IIa, which has seen plenty of offroad/agricultural use. We have given the ol' beast a complete body-off
restauration. And guess what? We're still using the original lights all around because they were fine!
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RichieC
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| posted on 3/1/06 at 02:28 PM |
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OK, checked the SVA manual - no mention of the fog lamp requiring a reflector.
I dont see why a stop/tail with a brighter fog bulb in wouldnt suffice as a fog lamp.
Does anyone have any more photos or advice about the "sharp" bits for SVA to help make my mind up.
Thanks
RC
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britishtrident
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| posted on 3/1/06 at 02:39 PM |
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The fog light has to be "e" marked as compliant to the standard for rear foglights.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 3/1/06 at 02:47 PM |
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The fog light has a distinct beam - that's why the SVA insists on it being mounted vertically. I've never seen a stop lamp that produces a
proper beam.
David
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RichieC
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| posted on 3/1/06 at 02:49 PM |
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Ah bum, I suppose the lens must have a different pattern.
Thanks
Rich
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caber
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| posted on 3/1/06 at 03:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by akumabito
quote:
Originally posted by caber
Land rover side lights are as cheap because youhave to replace them on a rather too frequent basis!. They leak the lamps corrode into the sockets the
screws corrode into the backplate so basically if one goes out you are as well replacing the whole thing rather than the bulb! The Paddocks ones are
not quite the same pattern as the ones in the photo they are series type which is a bit more pointy.
They will look OK and may last a bit longer if you don't take the 7 out in the rain:-)
Caber
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We own a 1967 Land Rover Series IIa, which has seen plenty of offroad/agricultural use. We have given the ol' beast a complete body-off
restauration. And guess what? We're still using the original lights all around because they were fine!
The lights on my 1966 Carawagon are original the front lights on my Series 3 have been replaced twice in the last 8 years the back ones I changed to
military pattern screw ins which are great but expensive. Yer pays yer money. . . . . . . .
Caber
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flak monkey
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| posted on 1/2/06 at 11:43 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
Land Rover Lights:
http://www.paddockspares.com
http://www.paddockspares.com/shop/pages/series/electrics.htm
Indicators £2:89.
They also do a separate reflector for £1.45. Its about 3" x 1.5" I got them for my Lightweight Landy. Part No XFF100070
I dont know if they are SVA compliant. However, I dont think the reflector has to be part of the light unit. Otherwise, separate indicators / brake /
side lights would not be legal either.
Check the SVA Manual first.
Cheap as chips
Just bought a set of rear lights from those people. Good service. Whole lot (except the fog light) came to £24 delivered.
All the lamps have an E mark on them, but it doesnt tally with the SVA manual for some reason (they are all marked E11), though in the case of rear
stop/tail lights and idicators they are interested in the intensity which as long as its equivalent then they are OK, but the fog light must have the
correct beam (its got all the right markings). The Landy lights are all Wipac branded.
David
 
Rescued attachment Rear Lights.jpg
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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DarrenW
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| posted on 1/2/06 at 12:11 PM |
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Exactly what i used.
Other suppliers are Britpart and Bearmach
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RichieC
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| posted on 1/2/06 at 12:32 PM |
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£24 - sheesh thats cheap. Think they look good on the black cars too.
Rgds
Rich
[Edited on 1/2/06 by RichieC]
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DarrenW
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| posted on 1/2/06 at 12:45 PM |
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This is what they look like on a dark blue car. Not a great pic. Also see avatar.
[Edited on 1/2/06 by DarrenW]
 
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kev R1
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| posted on 1/2/06 at 06:58 PM |
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i work for paddock spares, take a look at the north american spec lights(N.A.S) i think they would look pretty cool on a kit car, if anyone needs some
give us a shout should be able to get them a bit cheaper.kev
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RichieC
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| posted on 1/2/06 at 07:12 PM |
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Hi Kev,
Being a bit of a thicky, I cant find the NAS lights on the webby, do you have a link please?
Rgds
Richie
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robinbastd
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| posted on 1/2/06 at 10:36 PM |
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This chap has been selling these on Ebay recently. I think the latest listing has just ended,but he's relisted them in the past.
This is what you get for £19.99 + £6.99 P&P.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=100921&item=4607801187
Only a dead fish swims with the tide.
http://smuttygifts.com/
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Steve @ sVc
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| posted on 3/2/06 at 09:56 AM |
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These lights are low cost, there are at least 5 makers of them - some not too good.
We sell the Land Rover type lights for £10 a pair inc. vat & bulbs.
We have had some fail SVA due to the sharpness of the edge of the screw holes, so we recommend silicon in the screw holes prior to SVA testing.
The rear fog must be "E" marked (E11 just tells us it was originally tested in the UK). and must have an "F" mark. Yes the
rear fog is brighter than a brake light - this is achieved by using a reflector behind the bulb.
The rectangular Rear Fog used by Land Rover and Westfield(!) needs to have a "U" section around the back moulding as the edge does not
pass SVA.
Steve @ sVc
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