DarrenW
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Antifreeze warning to you all
Some of you may already be aware of this, i wish i was. Over the xmas break i had to have my 9yr old dog put down. He was a great freind and a sad
loss. Iam struggling to come to terms with his sad departure. To cut a long story short - i always have the dogs in the garage with me when im
pottering on (ive still got one of my retrievers). Car leaked some antifreeze. I didnt notice it until i caught Duke licking it up off the garage
floor. I didnt think anything of it. He slowly became ill and stopped eating / drinking etc. Took him to vets expecting a quick injection and swift
recovery. Blood test confirmed kidney failure and nothing they could do for him. It was one hell of a shock and a freak accident. Apparently if i got
him down within 2 hours there was a slim chance of stopping its effects but only very slim at best. Vet had had 2 or 3 cats in the same week with same
result.
Bottom line - Antifreeze is HIGHLY poisonous to animals. Please be careful and dont go through what iam right now. Iam devastated and on a major guilt
trip.
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mak
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| posted on 4/1/06 at 01:54 PM |
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Thankyou darren,
Our cats live in the garage (at night) and we used to leave open containers of antifreeze if we did'nt have an appropriate bottle. They could
have easily drunk it, but luckily did'nt.
Had no idea it was that potent, and will not be doing it again.
Sorry about your dog.
Regards,
Mark
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 4/1/06 at 01:56 PM |
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That's a shame - we have a 15-year-old mutt and I'd hate to lose him in such a way.
David
PS: for info - just found this on Google - american, but very informative (I was wondering why aminals would lick the stuff)
LINK
[Edited on 4/1/06 by David Jenkins]
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DarrenW
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| posted on 4/1/06 at 02:03 PM |
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Just to add - the cats that the vet told me about apparently drank the antifreeze during the night in garage after car had a problem with radiator due
to bad weather. Ive always been keen to put fluids and oils etc away when finished with them but in most cases bad experiences have been had after an
accidental non intentional leak.
Im lucky in that my garage is large. I will now make sure that my other dog cannot wander from the workshop end to the car end in future - i might
even put her on a long lead etc when in with me.
Vet also told me that it only takes a very small amount to kill them, no more than a mouthful even if diluted. Some has bitrex in it to prevent
ingestion, normally it is sweet!!
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 4/1/06 at 02:37 PM |
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Sorry to hear your bad news, I lost my Doberman 6years ago Boxing day . Although I was expecting it , he was 15 , it still hurt. Always get a tear in
my eye if I see another chocolate coloured one.
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OX
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| posted on 4/1/06 at 04:08 PM |
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sorry to hear about the loss,its never nice when a pet dies.
its not just pets that it can kill,its often used when people want to commit suicide,, if caught in time the antidote is whisky
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ayoungman
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| posted on 4/1/06 at 05:15 PM |
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Many thanks for taking the time to let us know. It could not have been easy to discuss it. I think this should be forwarded to as many people as
possible.
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tadltd
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| posted on 4/1/06 at 05:31 PM |
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Commiserations on your loss and thank you for the warning. I wasn't aware that coolant was so toxic and I always have our dogs (2 border
collies) in the workshop with me. I'll be much more careful with coolant spillages in future.
Best Regards,
Steve.
www.turnerautosport.com
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Guinness
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| posted on 4/1/06 at 06:00 PM |
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Darren
Really sorry to hear about your dog. Not much anyone can say, but I really admire you standing up and telling others, so that it doesn't happen
to anyone else.
All the best.
Mike
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steve_gus
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| posted on 4/1/06 at 07:03 PM |
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thats really sad and my commisserations to you.
On the other hand, spreading this story could have a bad effect. If someone has a problem with next doors cat crapping on your grass, or a noisy dog,
then just leave out some........
atb
steve
[Edited on 4/1/06 by steve_gus]
http://www.locostbuilder.co.uk
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NS Dev
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| posted on 4/1/06 at 09:32 PM |
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really gutted to hear that mate, that really is a shit.
I have never thought anything more of the little bits and bobs of antifreeze around, often dump it onto the concrete when draining and wash it away
with the hose later.........................won't be doing that now!
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Coose
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| posted on 5/1/06 at 09:13 AM |
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I was really sad when I read this, and told 'er indoors last night who nearly started blubbing!
We have a border collie pup who has a lively tongue, so I really appreciate you warning us about this. I knew glycol wasn't particularly
'healthy', but never realised it was so lethal for the pup!
Spin 'er off Well...
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marc n
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| posted on 5/1/06 at 09:30 AM |
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hi darren sorry to hear about your loss, i have my two dogs round the workshop all day and it never occured to me about the antifreeze thankyou for
the warning will definatelyu be more carefull now
out of interest what effects does it have on humans, as in the past i have syphoned coolant out from a car when overfilled before
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Syd Bridge
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| posted on 5/1/06 at 09:56 AM |
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Sad news, my sympathies to you.
What makes anti freeze attractive to animals is the 'sweet' taste. The local scrappy lost a couple of dogs before they were made aware of
why.
Anyone remember the outcry a while ago, when it was found that one of the eastern european countries was using small amounts to sweeten their white
wine?
Regards,
Syd.
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iank
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| posted on 5/1/06 at 10:36 AM |
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Horrible news, sorry to hear it.
quote:
Originally posted by marc n
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out of interest what effects does it have on humans, as in the past i have syphoned coolant out from a car when overfilled before
Don't do this! the official sites go into jargon quickly but wikipedia is more accessable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene_glycol#Safety
quote:
The major danger from ethylene glycol is from its ingestion. Due to its sweet taste, children and animals will sometimes consume large quantities of
it if given access to antifreeze. Symptoms of ethylene glycol poisoning follow a three-step progression. Initially, victims may appear to be
intoxicated, exhibiting symptoms such as dizziness, slurred speech, and confusion. Over time, the body metabolizes ethylene glycol into another toxin,
oxalic acid. Buildup of this substance results in irregularities in the victim's heartbeat and breathing. In the final stage, the victim suffers
kidney failure. In developed countries, denatonium is generally added to ethylene glycol preparations in order to offset the sweet taste.
Victims of ethylene glycol poisoning who are still conscious may be given milk or water to drink to delay the effects of the poison. In any case,
medical attention should be sought immediately. Ethylene glycol doses as small as 30 milliliters (2 tablespoons) can be lethal to adults.
However, the most effective treatment after recent ingestion is either ethanol or fomepizole. Ethanol (usually dosed in the form of a strong spirit
such as whisky, vodka or gin) acts by competing with ethylene glycol for the enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase thus limiting the formation of toxic
metabolites. Fomepizole acts by inhibiting alcohol dehydrogenase, thus limiting the formation of the toxic metabolites.
On another note it was dodgy wine makers in Austria using it to sweeten wine not Eastern Europe .
[Edited on 5/1/06 by iank]
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02GF74
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| posted on 5/1/06 at 11:40 AM |
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Darren
That is really sad about your dog. It must be difficult but don't beat yourself up about it. Unfortunately it is another case of hindsight and
questions of what if I had known ....
I lost Catty 1 from kidney diesease over about 6 months, at least with your dog it was not drawn out like that.
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steve_gus
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| posted on 10/2/06 at 07:47 PM |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/4701360.stm
http://www.locostbuilder.co.uk
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JoelP
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| posted on 10/2/06 at 07:59 PM |
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i used to live on that bastards road... what utter incompetence.
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phillippe
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| posted on 11/2/06 at 02:40 PM |
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my symponys go to you
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