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Author: Subject: Bodywork for CANAMSA
DIY Si

posted on 11/2/07 at 12:18 PM Reply With Quote
Bloody hell that looks a bit complex! Good news on the progress front though, I was beginning to wonder if you'd had some major drawback or problem! How are you planning on doing the first layer of the moulds? Or are you filling all the gaps with something like polystyrene and then going over that?





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Fred W B

posted on 11/2/07 at 12:23 PM Reply With Quote
Hi DIY

The hold up was this


WRT skinning the plug, I have had 350 polyurethane foam blocks cut, to glue into the "egg box" spaces to form the surface. These will be finished to shape and then the whole thing skinned with GRP and filler.

Cheers

Fred W B

[Edited on 11/2/07 by Fred W B]

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DIY Si

posted on 11/2/07 at 12:58 PM Reply With Quote
Ah, I'd forgotten about that. Fair enough, I would gladly take time out to make such a nice garage/build space. Any guesses as to when the buck'll be ready? I imagine that'll be a fair sight all on it's own.





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RazMan

posted on 11/2/07 at 02:30 PM Reply With Quote
I'm following your project with growing interest Fred.

When covering the 'egg box' with GRP are you going to anchor it to the surface with load spreader plates or similar? I was just thinking that it might need to be bonded in some way to avoid separation when it comes to removing the buck from the mould. Or is it going to be a sacrificial buck?





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Raz

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sgraber

posted on 11/2/07 at 02:46 PM Reply With Quote
Great progress Fred, and forgive me as I take the podium to say that you are doing the right thing by making sure you have a good base to start from. If I can give any advice to people seeing Fred's complex structure who are considering their own buck/plug/mold construct - Do not skimp on the understructure. I did, and paid for it over the years of struggle to prevent shifting and cracking.

Now, we could have a whole conversation about CNC milling the plug vs hand shaping.... But this is not the time or the place. Just LOOK at that amazing wood work! Lovely!





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Fred W B

posted on 12/2/07 at 02:56 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Guys

Raz, I am hoping that the "skin" of GRP/filler will stay on the plug when I pull the moulds. I hadn't planned on doing anything more then just relying on the resin to stick the skin to the wood and foam base

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Fred W B

[Edited on 12/2/07 by Fred W B]

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thomas4age

posted on 12/2/07 at 11:22 PM Reply With Quote
HolySh*T that is indeed very nice,

makes me kindoff ashamed that I'm being a wuss, saving up for the GD t70 chassis and body.......

if I only had the time and skills to pull that off.

grtz Thomas





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DIY Si

posted on 12/2/07 at 11:24 PM Reply With Quote
Just do what I might do, and buy a shell off him!





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Fred W B

posted on 18/2/07 at 04:10 PM Reply With Quote
Made some progress on the front section this weekend.

WRT diy si's comment, would you believe that since I've been posting details of my project on here and on GT40s.com, I've had 5 different guys contact me wanting bodyshells. I tell them I'm not quite ready yet........

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Fred W B
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RazMan

posted on 18/2/07 at 06:13 PM Reply With Quote
Hey Fred, it's starting to look like a car now!







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Gaz 1977

posted on 19/2/07 at 09:17 AM Reply With Quote
wow

looking good, christ you have put some work into that
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gttman

posted on 19/2/07 at 03:05 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fred W B
Made some progress on the front section this weekend.

WRT diy si's comment, would you believe that since I've been posting details of my project on here and on GT40s.com, I've had 5 different guys contact me wanting bodyshells. I tell them I'm not quite ready yet........

Cheers

Fred W B



I can well beleive it.... I've had people pressure me to provide them a body and I hadn't even designed the rear end at the time.....
nothing stranger than folk.

keep up the good work.





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Fred W B

posted on 30/4/07 at 08:22 AM Reply With Quote
some process photos


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Fred W B

posted on 30/4/07 at 08:24 AM Reply With Quote
foam shaping tools


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Fred W B

posted on 30/4/07 at 08:27 AM Reply With Quote
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Fred W B

posted on 30/4/07 at 08:28 AM Reply With Quote
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Doug68

posted on 30/4/07 at 09:25 AM Reply With Quote
Awesome work Fred!

How long did it take the router guy to turn that lot out?

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iank

posted on 30/4/07 at 10:13 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gttman
quote:
Originally posted by Fred W B
Made some progress on the front section this weekend.

WRT diy si's comment, would you believe that since I've been posting details of my project on here and on GT40s.com, I've had 5 different guys contact me wanting bodyshells. I tell them I'm not quite ready yet........

Cheers

Fred W B



I can well beleive it.... I've had people pressure me to provide them a body and I hadn't even designed the rear end at the time.....
nothing stranger than folk.

keep up the good work.


Most will melt away when the issue of getting paid to make one is raised.

Some things about folk are rather predictable unfortunately.

Looking very good (both of you) wish I had the time, space, money and talent* to make exactly what I want.

* Not necessarily in that order





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Fred W B

posted on 30/4/07 at 10:52 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks Doug and iank

WRT the routing, the handling time was much more of a factor that the cutting time. The job was done in between real paying jobs, and took 3 or 4 weeks to complete, I think - It was a while ago!

Things I would do different next time would include putting 0.5 mm clearance in the interlocking slots (I made them dead 8 mm wide, to fit over the 8 mm ply and had to hammer the longitudinals in) and I would add some stations at the extreme rear, but fitted perpendicular to the body surface, not vertical. I would also make the longitudinal ribs thickness stick into the body shape from the actual longitudinal line, and not out as I have done. I still have to finish off all these edges flush with the eventual body surface.

Best thing I did was have lots of 92 mm wide planks cut, I've used them a lot to get spacing correct at various places, particularly on the base board. (my stations are at 100 centres, ply is 8 mm)


As for supplying others with bodies, I am under no illusions as to how many people will actually stump up money. Out here we have an expression which comes to mind whever anyone asks me if I can make them something - "Talk is cheap, money buys the whiskey!"

I want the wheel arches to look like this car. Over the years the wheel arch lips on original 70's seem to have varied quite a bit.

wa 2
wa 2


[Edited on 30/4/07 by Fred W B]

[Edited on 30/4/07 by Fred W B]

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Fred W B

posted on 30/4/07 at 10:54 AM Reply With Quote
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Fred W B

posted on 30/4/07 at 10:55 AM Reply With Quote
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Fred W B

posted on 30/4/07 at 10:57 AM Reply With Quote
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Fred W B

posted on 30/4/07 at 10:59 AM Reply With Quote
I think I have to start getting the hard skin on before I can get this any better.


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Fred W B

posted on 30/4/07 at 11:01 AM Reply With Quote
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Fred W B

posted on 30/4/07 at 11:04 AM Reply With Quote
I am now trying to get to grips with the air intake "nostrils" and complete the cockpit edges.

Cheers

Fred W B



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