flidz101
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| posted on 24/4/06 at 08:33 PM |
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Wot calipers 'n' discs
What do you suggest as a reasonable front suspension set-up? Is it worth bothering with vented discs or will original grooved and drilled cortina
discs do? (if so, where can I buy them?)
I want to upgrade the (frankly poo) M16s to a 4pot caliper. Is there any better than the Wilwood calipers?
What do you guys recommend?
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flak monkey
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| posted on 24/4/06 at 08:36 PM |
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They may seem poo. But they will stop a locost quicker than you think they will  A car weighing only half that of the orginal car only has 1/4of the
engery, so the brakes only have to work 1/4 as hard to stop in the same distance
When I asked a similar question I was told to fit good quality pads (Mintex fast road pads) and use normal discs. Depending on your budget you could
fit drilled and grooved discs which are about £40/pair. Pads and discs are available from www.rallydesign.com.
Cheers,
David
[Edited on 24/4/06 by flak monkey]
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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flidz101
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| posted on 24/4/06 at 08:48 PM |
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So you really think the M16s are OK?
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flak monkey
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| posted on 24/4/06 at 08:52 PM |
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Personally, yes i think they are fine. I am even using drum brakes on the back....
Really it all depends on your budget. If you have upwards of £300 to spend on some front calipers and discs, by all means do so and there will be a
difference. I am just not conviced theres enough difference to warrant the expenditure.... Maybe if you want the car as a track car it would be worth
it, but not on the road.
Just wait for everyone to disagree now 
David
[Edited on 24/4/06 by flak monkey]
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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RichardK
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| posted on 24/4/06 at 09:09 PM |
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and it would take you £50 over budget
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Stu16v
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| posted on 24/4/06 at 09:56 PM |
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I have had M16's and standard Cortina discs on the front of my car for three years now, and have done quite literally thousands of trackday
miles. I have never had any worries about braking power, and I have only once got the brakes so hot that they started losing effectiveness - and that
was with OE spec Ferodo pads. Last year I fitted some 'decent' pads, and got rid of that problem too!
Having said that, I am presently upgrading to Hi-Spec 4 pot calipers (if they ever turn up!). The only reason I am doing so is too shed weight, rather
than improve braking. If they do improve the braking, that will be a bonus to me...
Dont just build it.....make it!
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TimC
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| posted on 24/4/06 at 10:01 PM |
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Vented Disks = Massive Overkill IMHO
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 24/4/06 at 10:07 PM |
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retro ford mag did a back to back test of hi-spec 4 pots against princess 4 pots and found improved braking performance, as mentioned though with
around a quarter of the work to do on a 7 , the difference would be minimal.
didn't someone on here swap m16's for wilwood 4 pots and find no performance difference, can't remember who it was
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dern
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| posted on 24/4/06 at 10:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by liam.mccaffrey
didn't someone on here swap m16's for wilwood 4 pots and find no performance difference, can't remember who it was
I swapped
4 pot wilwoods for standard tina stuff on my 300bhp westfield and they're absolutely fine. The limiting factor is the tyres frankly even with
yoko 032rs. I'm putting the wilwoods on my bec locost though as they're lighter.
Mark
[Edited on 24/4/06 by dern]
R1 (2003 FI) powered Locost in progress
Fireblade/Impreza
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omega0684
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| posted on 25/4/06 at 01:47 AM |
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calipers
if you are looking to upgrade to a more powerful engine in the future then a brake upgrade may be a good idea. if you want fancy calipers why not give
hi-spec a call and talk to geoff. hi-spec do a lug and radial replacement for the M16 caliper, i think that they are about £90 +VAT (each), like dave
(flat monkey) said get yourself some decent pads (mintex or EBC green/red stuff) and you will have a great breaking system. (you will be able to stop
your car on a 5 pence piece let alone a 50)
Again it depends on your budget, i prefer the look of the hi-spec calipers (you can have them in bronze,silver or gold) to the dull black wilwood one,
again its down to you. i have heard good and bad reports on both hi-spec and wilwood but again its down to personal preference
here is the hi-spec site
http://www.hispecmotorsport.co.uk/
I love Pinto's, even if i did get mine from P&O!
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flidz101
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| posted on 25/4/06 at 10:44 AM |
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Thanks guys.
I think I've been persuaded to stick with the M16s for the moment. It is a tad expensive to uprgrade to the 4pots just to save a few kilos - I
think I'd rather keep my £200 and cut down on puddings.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 25/4/06 at 12:02 PM |
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I think you'll find there's slightly more than just a few kilos to be saved and remember where those kilos are - the worst possible place
- unsprung and some of it rotating. 
Like you state though, they're not cheap but definitely worth bearing in mind for future modification.
[Edited on 25-4-06 by Hellfire]
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