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indykid

posted on 7/5/06 at 07:39 PM Reply With Quote
structural rivets

i'm trying to get hold of some structural rivets, the ones where the mandrel fills the middle bit, for the floor for my new indy.

before anyone tries to shout using them down, the first car, with normal blind rivets fretted and oozed ally coloured waxoyl out between the sheets. just thought this should hold a bit better, and if they're good enough for aerospace, they'll do nicely.

i can't seem to find them anywhere on t'internet in england, and i know someone's said they've used them on here, so just wondered if they had a couple hundred spare. most places seem to want to sell them in 1000s.

presumably about 4.8/5mm dia. and clamp range around 5/6mm.

cheers,
tom






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rayward

posted on 7/5/06 at 07:59 PM Reply With Quote
something like these on

www.rswww.com

part numbers

351-3379

or
351-3543

i've got an account if you want some ordering.

Ray




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indykid

posted on 7/5/06 at 09:10 PM Reply With Quote
was thinking more along the lines of these

(see diagram about mandrel break off)
just like rocking horse droppings to get hold of

tom






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flak monkey

posted on 7/5/06 at 09:15 PM Reply With Quote
Tom, you have U2U





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Trev D

posted on 7/5/06 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
Try the rivet supply company London I will get the full address tomorrow if you want it's where we get all our rivets from at work. Regards Trev
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planetester

posted on 7/5/06 at 10:29 PM Reply With Quote
AGS2065-5XX or AGS4719-5xx are aerospace numbers for what you want, the 5 is 5/32" dia & xx is the grip lenghth in 1/16"ths, but getting hold ogf a large quantity & a gun to pull the 4719's is another thing, the RS items are just ally pops & the cherry max are about £5 each & you need the gun to put them in, Have you thought of using steel pops AGS2050-5xxBH or BS, (BH break head..BS break stem)

good luck

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DaveFJ

posted on 8/5/06 at 08:08 AM Reply With Quote
I have used structural rivets throughout. One thing you have to watch for is some types needa a special tool to set them....

I bought 4.8mm huck magnaloks for my floorpan and some other high load areas.

they aren't cheap but didn't break the bank. I can't remember the exact price but I think I paid about £100 for 500 rivets...

try this lot

here





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DaveFJ

posted on 8/5/06 at 08:09 AM Reply With Quote
forgot to mention - I used ally ones - stainless 4.8mm would be a bitch to work!





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Bluemoon

posted on 8/5/06 at 08:26 AM Reply With Quote
I went thought the same thoughts. I talked it through with these guys: http://www.prifast.co.uk/. I would suggest phoning them (his price was good as well).

I ended up using Avex 1661 Multigrip
(http://www.avdel.textron.com/brochures/breakstem/pdfs/avex_1661.pdf)Th e only rivets approved for amateur aircraft building. You will find the structural rivets very expensive and very difficult to "pull" you will need a special tool (in theory at least) to allow there mandrel locking mechanism to work. The 1661's are not the same as the cheapo pop rivets, but are not "structural ones" ether.. Still I have yet to use the car so maybe they will also come lose (I expect not though as they are spaced 30mm apart, (4.2mm rivets), as you are supposed to use them).

U2U me if you want the part numbers etc (I might have the wrong parts, as the above is from memory, I can check tonight).

Cheers

Dan

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