lough
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| posted on 9/11/06 at 02:08 PM |
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Age related numbers
What do I need to look out for regarding age related numbers, I am building a locost with a 1994 1.8 Zetec with a mkII rear axle.
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02GF74
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| posted on 9/11/06 at 02:28 PM |
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your question is about getting age related plate (you won't get donor's reg but one of same age) instead of Q plate?
there is points system - if you can get enough parts off the donor, you can qualify for age realted.
stuff like axles, steering, engine, gearbox etc.
if you use chassis as is, you reatin oringal reg.
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nitram38
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| posted on 9/11/06 at 06:46 PM |
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You need 8 points.
You get 1 for engine, 1 for gearbox, 1 for drivetrain etc.
But the best part is you get a whopping 5 points if your chassis is brand new and made by a manufacturer.
I told the DVLA I was " Bickell Designs" and I built the chassis.
I got and age related plate
Make sure you get a reciept for the new steel that you made the chassis from as they will need proof that the materials are new.
[Edited on 9/11/2006 by nitram38]
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Hellfire
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| posted on 9/11/06 at 09:54 PM |
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Not quite.
The 'Built Up Vehicle Inspection Report' V627/1, list major components for a car as;
Chassis/Body Shell
Axles
Transmission
Steering Assembly
Engine
Suspension (front and back)
You only need to use 2 of the above to qualify for an age related plate, although the more you use, the better chance you have. We have a
motorbike engine fitted and listed the Axles, Transmission and Steering Assembly from the Sierra.
Good enough for an age related plate
Phil
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nitram38
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| posted on 9/11/06 at 11:13 PM |
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When I tried to register my car in August this year, I was given a form with tick boxes. This was to indicate what major items I had used from the
donor.
It was explained to me that 8 points were required.
As I did not use the original chassis, this is one of the major components missing from my list.
Had I not included a new chassis for 5 points, I would not have had sufficient points to qualify (I think that I would have been 2 short).
This was made clear by the wimbledon DVLA and the visiting official to my home.
Maybe the rules are different where you live, but the wimbledon office want things that way.
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iank
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| posted on 9/11/06 at 11:41 PM |
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http://direct.gov.uk/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/RegisteringAVehicle/RegisteringAVehicleArticles/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=10014246&chk=VsQ/Fs
Kit Conversions
This is where a kit of new parts is added to an existing vehicle or old parts are added to a kit comprising a manufactured body, chassis or monocoque
bodyshell. The general appearance of the vehicle will change and result in a revised description on the registration certificate.
A vehicle will retain its donor registration mark if either the original unmodified chassis or unaltered monocoque bodyshell and two other major
components are used. If a new monocoque bodyshell or chassis from a specialist kit manufacturer is used (or an altered chassis or bodyshell from an
existing vehicle) together with two major components from a donor vehicle, an age related mark will be assigned. The mark will be based on the age of
the donor vehicle. An ESVA, SVA or MSVA test will be required to register the vehicle.
Where there are insufficient parts from a donor vehicle or in cases where the original registration mark is unknown, an ESVA, SVA or MSVA certificate
will be required to register the vehicle and a 'Q' prefix registration number will be allocated.
He seems to be using the radically altered vehicle points system
http://direct.gov.uk/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/RegisteringAVehicle/RegisteringAVehicleArticles/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=10014199&chk=iVQaD9
Registering a radically altered vehicle
The registration of radically altered vehicles covers vehicles which are substantially altered from their original specification, but which are not
kit conversions.
Allocating a vehicle registration mark
The vehicle must score eight or more points to retain the original registration mark. If less than eight points are scored or a second-hand or
modified chassis or altered monocoque bodyshell is used, an enhanced single vehicle approval (ESVA), single vehicle approval (SVA) or motorcycle
single vehicle approval (MSVA) certificate will be required to register the vehicle. A 'Q' prefix registration number will be
allocated.
Scoring components
The following values will be allocated to the major components used:
* chassis or body shell (body and chassis as one unit – monocoque ie direct replacement from the manufacturer) (original or new) = 5 points
* suspension = 2 points
* axles = 2 points
* transmission = 2 points
* steering assembly = 2 points
* engine = 1 point
So the question is, is a self designed vehicle a radically altered vehicle or a kit conversion.
[Edited on 9/11/06 by iank]
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Hellfire
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| posted on 10/11/06 at 12:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nitram38
When I tried to register my car in August this year, I was given a form with tick boxes. This was to indicate what major items I had used from the
donor.
It was explained to me that 8 points were required.
As I did not use the original chassis, this is one of the major components missing from my list.
Had I not included a new chassis for 5 points, I would not have had sufficient points to qualify (I think that I would have been 2 short).
This was made clear by the wimbledon DVLA and the visiting official to my home.
Maybe the rules are different where you live, but the wimbledon office want things that way.
Due to the great degree of autonomy that DVLA has allowed it's vehicle registry offices, there will always be inconsistencies with the
registration process, however, I believe most people who have registered their vehicles will have gone through a different process to yours.
Phil
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