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Pezza

posted on 31/1/07 at 06:14 PM Reply With Quote
Looks stunning imo





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David Jenkins

posted on 31/1/07 at 06:18 PM Reply With Quote
It does look interesting!

Just a thought - how much headroom do you anticipate? Have you tried fitting a "standard human" inside on the drawing board?

Not trying to be negative, honest! Just that it's better to address these issues early on in the design.

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[Edited on 31/1/07 by David Jenkins]





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Gaz 1977

posted on 31/1/07 at 09:02 PM Reply With Quote
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hi Dave, if i have measured things right it should be ok, however i have considered building two very subtle domes over the heads of the occupants. I think it would give the feel of a small agile car shrunk around the driver. The last thing i want is the vehicle to become too large. I hope to have some other views and the roof issues sorted out over the weekend.

Can't wait to start the Clay model.

cheers, Gaz

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Gaz 1977

posted on 1/2/07 at 07:22 PM Reply With Quote
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I hope this image gives an idea of the size of the vehicle.

keep the comments comming

Thanks Gaz Rescued attachment side rendering mk 3 AND SEVEN.jpg
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kreb

posted on 1/2/07 at 07:41 PM Reply With Quote
I think that it's very comely! I wonder if that scalloped side panel might not be very aerodynamic both in terms of lift and drag.

[Edited on 1/2/07 by kreb]





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Gaz 1977

posted on 1/2/07 at 07:53 PM Reply With Quote
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thanks for the comment Kreb,

I was going to have the sides leading through to the air intake of the nose, to remove heat from the engine bay, if you know what i mean.

Would there be an inturnal shape (under the skollop) that could stop the effects of lift?

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kreb

posted on 1/2/07 at 08:44 PM Reply With Quote
Actually I was referring to the rocker panels, or lack thereof.

It'll be a hell of a project in terms of hours committed, but if you've got the fortitude, what a result!!!!!!!!





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posted on 2/2/07 at 12:51 AM Reply With Quote
You dont have much space between the steering wheel and B-pillar.

Does look good, I always like the idea of a coupe body on a 7.

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Rob Palin

posted on 2/2/07 at 08:41 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gaz 1977
thanks for the comment Kreb,

I was going to have the sides leading through to the air intake of the nose, to remove heat from the engine bay, if you know what i mean.

Would there be an inturnal shape (under the skollop) that could stop the effects of lift?


No, a scallop there is fine. It will help air out of the engine bay and also reduce the size of the wake from the front wheel which usually makes a mess of the flow down the side of the car. In terms of lift i would be very surprised if you saw any penalty since you're extracting air which would otherwise build up under the bonnet and wheelarch, increasing the pressure there.

If i can make one request from an aero point of view - please don't leave much of the front face of the front tyres visible from the front of the car (like a Pheonix body), as that is absolutely terrible for lift, although people do tend to like it from a styling point of view.

Generally though, it looks fantastic! Keep it up!

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Gaz 1977

posted on 2/2/07 at 10:55 AM Reply With Quote
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Thanks again for all the help, The problem is that i cant keep up with the mods. That does't meen stop comenting.

How about this as an idea for the doors and roof, Similar to razman's. Rescued attachment mk 3 side DOOR OPEN.jpg
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stevebubs

posted on 2/2/07 at 02:48 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Gaz 1977
Thanks again for all the help, The problem is that i cant keep up with the mods. That does't meen stop comenting.

How about this as an idea for the doors and roof, Similar to razman's.


Hmm...looks about the same size as a Fury door - and they're snug for the average person....I normally rotate, squeeze me legs out then use my arms in a scissor action against the two sides to lever myself out...

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Gaz 1977

posted on 3/2/07 at 10:38 AM Reply With Quote
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I think that i will get a better idea of door openings etc once the model is in clay and i can have a good look around it.

thanks,

Gaz

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Dale

posted on 3/2/07 at 08:17 PM Reply With Quote
Just a thought but just may be the scale. Will a shorter driver be able to see out the side windows or will they be sitting too low?
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Gaz 1977

posted on 4/2/07 at 09:42 AM Reply With Quote
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thanks dale,

Well this is the plan, (at the moment) Because I have raised the roofline i am able to raise the steering wheel which allows me to move the seats forward and up if necessary. I would like to fit seat runners if possible so there could be ample adjustment for all sizes of people.

I am contemplating moving the front screen backwards a tad to givea larger bonnet area, what do you recon?

Oh just another thing, I have two different side views, which one do you all think is the better.

Thanks again.

Gaz

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Stu16v

posted on 4/2/07 at 09:38 PM Reply With Quote
Ooh, smacks of Caterham 21...





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Gaz 1977

posted on 5/2/07 at 09:15 PM Reply With Quote
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I hope it wont, when its finished. I had never seen one till i googled it this morning.

Here is (and i stress) a very rough rear view Rescued attachment reaer 34 locost.jpg
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posted on 5/2/07 at 09:57 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Gaz,

I hadn't heard of a 21 either.
I suppose that's another number Caterham won't let anyone use.

Just a thought on the exhaust. (Well I would, wouldn't I)

Is the bottom of the scalloped side the edge of the Locost chassis?
If so, I can see a "Cobra style" exhaust tube/can in there.

Tee He, I'll start making the prototype.


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Gaz 1977

posted on 5/2/07 at 10:50 PM Reply With Quote
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i doubt if it will be the edge of the chassis,


i will have the angle change of the chassis
(11 degrees i think) to smooth out, i dont know about the exhaust yet, If you are in the mood you can make one for the A2

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posted on 5/2/07 at 11:17 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gaz 1977
i doubt if it will be the edge of the chassis,


i will have the angle change of the chassis
(11 degrees i think) to smooth out, i dont know about the exhaust yet,


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Gaz 1977

posted on 6/2/07 at 09:10 AM Reply With Quote
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not a problem, i will take one off your hands. I think you will find it is exactly the same system as a 1990 v8 vantage.

gonna start the clay model today.

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Gaz 1977

posted on 9/2/07 at 05:40 PM Reply With Quote
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if anyone is interested the clay model of my design is underway. I have only spent a couple of days on it so far, i hope that in a few weeks it will be fairly resolved.

if anyone has any questions or opinions please let me know Rescued attachment ft 23 small.jpg
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Gaz 1977

posted on 9/2/07 at 05:41 PM Reply With Quote
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and the rear Rescued attachment rear 34 small.jpg
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CraigJ

posted on 11/2/07 at 01:28 PM Reply With Quote
Kin hell thats looking great.






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sgraber

posted on 11/2/07 at 03:49 PM Reply With Quote
Your definitely onto something. It's a very dynamic shape that looks like it's going fast just sitting still. Have you modeled the sight lines from the interior yet? (Cad).

I really, REALLY hope that you don't stop at the clay stage because I think it's awesome.





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Gaz 1977

posted on 11/2/07 at 05:05 PM Reply With Quote
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thanks for the comments mate.

I havent sorted out the line of site yet. I know that the bonnet needs to be lowered a bit and i hope to get it sorted over the next couple of days. Once the body is a little closer to the final design i will be able to measure from the model and still have chance to change things around. (the joy of clay)

I havent done any cad work on this project yet and i am not sure that i will have time to as the university deadline is fairly tight.

Tomorow i really need to work on the rear arches because at the moment they look shite (technical term)

thanks for the comments and keep looking on here because i will try and update it every day or so.

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