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CD-5

posted on 22/2/07 at 06:58 PM Reply With Quote
Locost atom anyone....

While checking the web for unusual car i found this one on another locost forum.... What can i say...beside WoW!!

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2509637

Loking good and almost completed... what do ya think???





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COREdevelopments

posted on 22/2/07 at 07:13 PM Reply With Quote
i really like it, gotta take my hate off to him, its impressive.






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chrisg

posted on 22/2/07 at 07:17 PM Reply With Quote
Looks good, some nice engineering there.

I'd like to see the front wishbones beefed up though, theyre quite long not to be cross braced.

cheers

Chris

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froggy

posted on 22/2/07 at 08:45 PM Reply With Quote
i dont see that being locost impressive though
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rav

posted on 22/2/07 at 08:45 PM Reply With Quote
Quality!
Those fabricated uprights are really nice.

Wishbones look sweet to me - the tubes are properly used to carry loads directly from point to point so should only be in tension or compression -ie no bending. Can't see that cross bracing would achieve anything, assuming he's not putting suspension loads into the bottom bone like the locost/westy/caterham design.

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chrisg

posted on 22/2/07 at 09:09 PM Reply With Quote
I'd agree with that, I was thinking more about torsion, the wheels/ hub are along way out there, a long moment to resist twist.

Maybe they're ok, difficult to tell.

cheers

Chris

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JoelP

posted on 22/2/07 at 09:36 PM Reply With Quote
they are very long, but from the quality of the welding and the execution of the rest of the project, i think he will have picked a tube size suitable for the job. Unusually for me, i cant pick any faults with it, though im not too keen on the atom approach - i dont like the long bent tubes, though obviously straight ones would ruin the cockpit space.

in fact, the design looks more arty than engineery to me...

[Edited on 22/2/07 by JoelP]

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rpmagazine

posted on 22/2/07 at 09:37 PM Reply With Quote
lots of scrub there!
Tig work is nice

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kb58

posted on 22/2/07 at 10:03 PM Reply With Quote
Wish he'd offer some comments on the pictures. For example, what are those bolt-on spindles from?





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rpmagazine

posted on 22/2/07 at 11:25 PM Reply With Quote
The bolt on bearing set is the least impressive part of the work, it negates the advantage that a fabricated upright might have with wide spaced bearings
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Tralfaz

posted on 22/2/07 at 11:39 PM Reply With Quote
Coincidentally he just posted a "hello" on the Locost USA board.

http://locostusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1503&start=45

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CD-5

posted on 23/2/07 at 12:11 AM Reply With Quote
Yep! that's it...

One thing is, FWD donor are easyer to find here in north america...rwd donor in quebec are rare and difficult to find.

[Edited on 23/2/07 by CD-5]





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kb58

posted on 23/2/07 at 01:09 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rpmagazine
The bolt on bearing set is the least impressive part of the work, it negates the advantage that a fabricated upright might have with wide spaced bearings


Well, I fabricated my rear uprights from scratch, to use the Honda wheel bearing, a two-inch wide affair. Using widely spaced wheel bearings, while better from a mechanical strength point of view, is much harder when you have an existing stub-axle to use. Unless you want to make your own stub-axle/CV housing... I don't think so.





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rpmagazine

posted on 23/2/07 at 02:03 AM Reply With Quote
I agree that it is a lot of work and I have avoided it myself, primarily because I cannot register a vehilce with such components unless they are tested.
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Ham

posted on 23/2/07 at 08:22 AM Reply With Quote
Great South African engineering, gotta love it

Looks great

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TheGecko

posted on 23/2/07 at 08:45 AM Reply With Quote
Looks nicely done. However, I think referring to it as "a new concept" is stretching things a bit! It's an obvious tube for tube copy of the Atom.

Still, well executed and should be a lot of fun.

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MikeRJ

posted on 4/3/07 at 10:47 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by chrisg
Looks good, some nice engineering there.


Everything looks very nicely made except the rear lower wishbones. I don't think the tube welded halfway along one of the wishbone tubes going to the upright is a very nice design at all, it's almost deliberately loading a stressed part in bending. It should also be mounted on a pivot if he is using that arm to adjust toe.

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liftarn

posted on 5/3/07 at 01:40 PM Reply With Quote
What about the MEV Rocket? http://www.mevltd.co.uk/

It looks close enough for a lawsuit.

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#Rotor

posted on 5/3/07 at 07:19 PM Reply With Quote
[link followed from USA site]
Wow, I never thought I would ever get this kind of response from those that actually do know what they are talking about. Please know That I sincerely appreciate the comments and criticisms from you bunch. You guys and girls are Awesome....

ok enough with the sucking up here...

first let me not patronize anyone here into thinking I'm an Engineer.... I am NOT an engineer, not mechanically anyhow...
Software engineering....well ok maybe I know a thing or two about that...

all I am is someone that likes to play with mechanical stuff. I taught myself how to Weld and work with a lathe and stuff like that. The CADding kind of came from my being into computers and stuff like that, so I've been using AutoCAD since.... well I can't really remember since when....

I've modified Cars and bikes since I was able to ride them, this is however my very first hand at actually building a car from Scratch.....So please be gentle with me
Regards...

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Alan B

posted on 5/3/07 at 07:25 PM Reply With Quote
Welcome aboard.....you have come to right place...probably the best collection of home-built mid-engined car knowledge on planet earth....


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cloudy

posted on 5/3/07 at 07:49 PM Reply With Quote
Or the finest collection of nutters, just depends who you ask!

James

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russbost

posted on 5/3/07 at 10:26 PM Reply With Quote
Some very fine engineering & an awful lot of hours gone into that I would say!! Congratulations & welcome.





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Fred W B

posted on 6/3/07 at 05:55 AM Reply With Quote
A warm welcome from me too, nice to have another SA on here, and in midengine to boot!

I am also impressed with your workmanship.

Cheers

Fred W B

[Edited on 6/3/07 by Fred W B]

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#Rotor

posted on 7/3/07 at 05:46 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kb58
Wish he'd offer some comments on the pictures. For example, what are those bolt-on spindles from?



if I tell you, you will loose all respect you had left for me



[Edited on 13/9/07 by #Rotor]

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Fred W B

posted on 7/3/07 at 06:01 AM Reply With Quote
Hi rotor

To me, you are putting a lot of faith in the weld that connects the rear upright to the lower tube that holds the suspension arm attachment bushes. Or are you still going to add some gussets?

Cheers

Fred W B

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