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DarrenW

posted on 30/3/07 at 08:50 AM Reply With Quote
your threads are fascinating. Giving us all a good insight into the world of car design. Many thanks for that.

Shame about the clay - i was gutted when i saw what happened to it.

Looking at the size of the model it looks like it would lend itself nicely to being the body for a RC car - maybe an interesting twist for the design show????

Maybe you could do a scale model of a Locost chassis or similar and power it up with electric motor. Have a few bodies in various liveries as part of the display.

Keep up the god work.

What are others in your class doing?






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the_parson

posted on 30/3/07 at 12:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gaz 1977
You will get the old invite to the degree show in London, Down Brick Lane......

hmmmmmmmm Cuuuurrrrrrryyyyyyyy.

we will see if we can get everyone together for maybe an orange juice....


Cool, sounds like a plan. Looking forward to that.





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Gaz 1977

posted on 30/3/07 at 03:49 PM Reply With Quote
locost design

thanks Darren,

Thanks for the comments, there are a few pics of other peoples stuff in the original thread. When all the models are comming together i will post a few more pics on here.

As for the radio controlled model, no, this thing has cost far to much cash to drive it into a wall. I think i will stick to a static model.

The mold is now finished and is off to the fibreglassers on monday, so i will soon have it fitted to the chassis and then i will have to start on the interior.

Thanks again

Gaz.

ps. you will have to drive up and have a look at the thing in the flesh.

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sgraber

posted on 30/3/07 at 06:24 PM Reply With Quote
I certainly hope you properly evaluated your plug for negative drafts before laying out your part lines! The slightest negative draft will ensure that your fiberglass remains in the mold.... until something breaks or is stress fractured.





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Gaz 1977

posted on 30/3/07 at 06:35 PM Reply With Quote
locost mold

Thanks Steve, The damage to the model was caused but the clay sticking to the gel coat even though the model had tonnes of release agent on it, I think i was sold the wrong stuff. It should release ok but i will find out in a few days time. I have to send the mold off for fibreglassing because due to the wonderful world of health and safety i am not allowed to use fibreglass at the university.

Thanks

GAZ

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Tralfaz

posted on 30/3/07 at 09:01 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gaz 1977
Thanks Steve, The damage to the model was caused but the clay sticking to the gel coat even though the model had tonnes of release agent on it, I think i was sold the wrong stuff. It should release ok but i will find out in a few days time. I have to send the mold off for fibreglassing because due to the wonderful world of health and safety i am not allowed to use fibreglass at the university.

Thanks

GAZ



That's funny as I was amused to see one of your mates (at Uni) with a Fag hanging out of his mouth.

T

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Pezza

posted on 30/3/07 at 10:20 PM Reply With Quote
Brick lane? not to far from me!
Last time I was up that way was for the Bodyworks exhibit a good few years ago now.

I'll pop along if it's free to spectators





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Gaz 1977

posted on 30/3/07 at 11:02 PM Reply With Quote
fag

Tralfaz, My mate in the photo works at the uni but the fag was not lit, he did not inhale etc.

When i have the final dates for the degree show i will post them on here. the more the better.

The building where the show will be held is the old brewery which i think is where the bodyworks thing was held

GAZ

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Gaz 1977

posted on 1/4/07 at 11:57 AM Reply With Quote
mold

I have now finished the mold, I filled the gaps inbetween the different sections with milliput and given the mold 8 coats of mirrorglaze.

I will drop it off tomorow and pray

GAZ Rescued attachment mold fin.jpg
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Tralfaz

posted on 1/4/07 at 01:37 PM Reply With Quote
Fingers Crossed.
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Dale

posted on 1/4/07 at 03:47 PM Reply With Quote
Best of luck, it seems to me that you deserve it to work out. Your work has been an insperation to sort out the bodywork for mine.
Dale





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and 12 now say they will have there license before the car is done- now turning 19 and 16

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Gaz 1977

posted on 1/4/07 at 04:28 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks

Thanks for that dale, I have been keeping an eye on your posts and its looking really good so best of luck with the remainder of your project.

Thanks to everyone who has commented so far. I hope to have some good images to put on here in the next couple of weeks as the model progresses.

GAZ

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the_parson

posted on 1/4/07 at 08:43 PM Reply With Quote
Yeah, good luck dude.





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Mr Whippy

posted on 2/4/07 at 11:14 AM Reply With Quote
When you have the celebratory party at the end of the course you can pour jelly in for some treats

Anyway I'm sure you'll soon have a very nice body shell, how many are they making? You really should fit some R/C gear, pound stretcher up here is selling giant hummerís for about £30 that can be modified.






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Gaz 1977

posted on 2/4/07 at 04:14 PM Reply With Quote
locost design

This model will have taken me eight months to design and will have cost me over £1000 to build, taking into account rubber molds, fibreglass molds, plastics, paint and tools. I am not fitting radio gear in the thing that will result in it being damaged

GAZ

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JamJah

posted on 2/4/07 at 07:53 PM Reply With Quote
And the worlds "End of..." were not even muttered in terms of radio control.
hehe





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escort_innit

posted on 2/4/07 at 08:28 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gaz 1977
This model will have taken me eight months to design and will have cost me over £1000 to build, taking into account rubber molds, fibreglass molds, plastics, paint and tools. I am not fitting radio gear in the thing that will result in it being damaged

GAZ


I can see your point, I certainly wouldn't want to risk damaging the culmination of several years of study. Let alone if it cost that much to make and looked so good!

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Mr Whippy

posted on 3/4/07 at 01:03 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gaz 1977
This model will have taken me eight months to design and will have cost me over £1000 to build, taking into account rubber molds, fibreglass molds, plastics, paint and tools. I am not fitting radio gear in the thing that will result in it being damaged

GAZ



good point

I have noticed the amounts that others also spend developing their cars and they too seem to have occurred huge costs, so that seems the norm. I wonder how much the full size version will cost? I dread to think.

Are the others making moulds of their cars or are you the only one? I donít recall you saying what you had to achieve for your course, whether it was just the design or also the production side. If it wasnít for the fact that Iím tied up here Iíll have liked to have done course as Iíve always been designing cars but never made anything of it

Keep up the good work



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Gaz 1977

posted on 3/4/07 at 06:57 PM Reply With Quote
LOCOST DESIGN

well its quarter scale.

While the body is away it thought i would spend a few days building the seats.

Should be finished tomorow Rescued attachment SEATS.jpg
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stevebubs

posted on 3/4/07 at 07:37 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
quote:
Originally posted by Gaz 1977
This model will have taken me eight months to design and will have cost me over £1000 to build, taking into account rubber molds, fibreglass molds, plastics, paint and tools. I am not fitting radio gear in the thing that will result in it being damaged

GAZ



good point

I have noticed the amounts that others also spend developing their cars and they too seem to have occurred huge costs, so that seems the norm. I wonder how much the full size version will cost? I dread to think.

Are the others making moulds of their cars or are you the only one? I donít recall you saying what you had to achieve for your course, whether it was just the design or also the production side. If it wasnít for the fact that Iím tied up here Iíll have liked to have done course as Iíve always been designing cars but never made anything of it

Keep up the good work



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I think £20k would be the norm for development of a full size enclosed bodyshell.....

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Mr Whippy

posted on 4/4/07 at 09:31 AM Reply With Quote


you may have to make quite a few shells then...

I love the chassis and the new seats. How'd you make all the parts are they cast resin? Finished off as a complete 7 it would be worth a few bob.






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DarrenW

posted on 4/4/07 at 02:43 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gaz 1977
well its quarter scale.

While the body is away it thought i would spend a few days building the seats.

Should be finished tomorow


That is nothing short of amazing. I wouldnt even know where to start. The seats look fantastic, im surprised none of the manufacturers have made GRP seats that look like those. I cant wait to see the body go on.


BTW - the RC idea wasnt to get your full model moving. More an idea to make a second bodyshell and plonk that on top of a RC car chassis, but i guess the wheels etc would all be in the wrong places. And to be honest it sounds like you have your hands full getting that one finished.

Keep up the good work.






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Mr Whippy

posted on 4/4/07 at 03:13 PM Reply With Quote
the seats look like the Cobra Roadsters I have.

That was my thinking about the R/C version aswell.






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JamJah

posted on 4/4/07 at 03:47 PM Reply With Quote
Being a student of a different design medium I make models too. Nothing that good but we only get a few days to make ours!
Although we do put motors and lights on at times it often just detracts from the design and the concepts that you, as a designer, are pushing.

At most I would put working lights on, but this can look very twee in the wrong situation, which I hink this will be.





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Gaz 1977

posted on 4/4/07 at 05:27 PM Reply With Quote
SEATS

yup they are cobras, ish.

You are not wrong Darren I certainly have my hands full, I will see how the fibreglass comes out tomorow

As far as the model being worth a few bob if it had a seven body, it would be a model of a locost, therefore worth less then a locost. It would be alot of work to change it, it would destroy the model i have and I have no interest in selling it.
so thats a no no.


Here are the finished seats, minus a bit of piping.

Thanks GAZ Rescued attachment SEAT 3.jpg
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