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Author: Subject: Plastic tubing for water works or not?
Steve Lovelock

posted on 2/3/08 at 08:47 PM Reply With Quote
Plastic tubing for water works or not?

Hello,

I am at the water works plumbing stage and need to run a few lengths of 32mm tubing to accomodate my cooling requirements. After a quick visit to B&Q I now know that plastic plumbing pipe is cheap at that diameter. However, I was wondering if that would be suitable for use in a 7 before I buy it. Any ideas?

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smart51

posted on 2/3/08 at 08:55 PM Reply With Quote
Plastic softens with heat. Car coolant is hotter than domestic hot water or central heating. Can you not get copper plumbing pipe at a reasonable diameter?
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MkIndy7

posted on 2/3/08 at 09:26 PM Reply With Quote
We've used some plastic push fit pipe on ours and its held up ok full of water for the last 6 months and done about 200 miles some of which were very hot as we were trying to tune the engine.

We used it to get under the steering column to the lowest rad connection, Rather than crushing a hose we decided to warm and then squash the plastic pipe in the hope that it would retain its volume and flow well.

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tjoh84

posted on 2/3/08 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
as above soil pipe is only able to take hot temps for short times like pouring out hot water from the pan not for extended use. plus prob look nasty i say remove the cobwebbs out the wallet
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Hellfire

posted on 2/3/08 at 09:35 PM Reply With Quote
AFAIK, the highest spec'd plastic pipe available for domestic central heating applications is cross-linked polyethylene (PEX) but like Smart51 says, the coolant temperature at times will far exceed the maximum designed limit for this type of pipe.

Stick with copper or aluminium tubing for the coolant plumbing.

Phil






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indykid

posted on 2/3/08 at 09:51 PM Reply With Quote
28mm copper with solder ring fittings on the end is about as near as you could ask to get to 32mm with a bead.

tom






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blueshift

posted on 2/3/08 at 10:56 PM Reply With Quote
After witnessing what a failed heater pipe did to Hicost's leg at donnington, I urge you not to take any safety risks with the water plumbing.

It's right up there on my list of "things not to do wrong" along with brakes, propshaft and lightened flywheels.

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whitestu

posted on 3/3/08 at 07:52 AM Reply With Quote
I've used the stuff labelled as 'high temperature' plastic 32mm pipe on my radiator return.

It doesn't go soft and worked absolutely fine on my CVH.



Stu

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Neill117

posted on 3/3/08 at 09:35 AM Reply With Quote
Much like the OP I have concidered using 32mm plastic pipe as its easy to get hold of compared to metal alternatives. Where have people found copper or alu 32mm pipe? I am especially after a 32mm 90 deg elbow peice.
I guess I could use 28mm gas pipe, which is easily sourced and flare the ends manually again but dont like the idea of yet more flow restrictions.
Sorry for a little hijack OP but it was my guess a supplier would be of use to you too.

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iank

posted on 3/3/08 at 10:51 AM Reply With Quote
Straight 32mm OD aluminium tube is £10 per meter from CBS
http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/aluminium-tube-262-c.asp

32mm ID elbow in siliconne is £8.89 from RallyDesign.
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=3696





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Schrodinger

posted on 3/3/08 at 12:50 PM Reply With Quote
Merlin also do alli tube and will bend if for you.
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/SHEETS-AND-TUBING/c321/index.html





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Neill117

posted on 3/3/08 at 07:43 PM Reply With Quote
Good links chaps, just the stuff.
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Steve Lovelock

posted on 3/3/08 at 11:41 PM Reply With Quote
Yep, I'm sold too. Thanks.
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